I also reject the framing of “Israel makes Jews unsafe/increases antisemitism” because: (1) we’re the oppressors in the context of Israel, not the victims; (2) this framing abdicates Jewish responsibility because ‘Israel’ is not an amorphous self-animating thing that merely hovers over us, it is a colony that we as Jews actively build and sustain daily through concerted generational effort; (3) that’s not “antisemitism” it’s a reaction to Jewish-led genocide which all our institutions support; (4) you’re conceding to the propaganda that there is a “rise in antisemitism” when Jews currently do not face systemic oppression for being Jewish and the “antisemitic incidents” data is tracked such that every anti-zionist protest sign is clocked as a separate “antisemitic incident” by the ADL so; (5) enough with the Jewish victimhood, “Jewish safety” and “antisemitism” talk, it’s just a distraction from Jewish-perpetrated genocide of Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims.
Man, I thought that “yes, all Jews” was clickbait, but no, the article is saying that literally all Jews are culpable for Israel and that they would support the extermination of all Jewish people. Kind of a wild take…
I didn’t see anything about extermination.
Wait until you talk to guys who actually study Jewish theology bruh, they hate “Israel” and American Jews more than they love breathing. They are alone, cast out of institutions which are as much an extension of the CIA as the Mormon “Church” and SScientology. Shouldn’t one feel the same as a ChriSStian (be they atheistic or polytheistic) in Amerika?
nowhere does it say that. You’re just trying to paint jews as the real victims of the palestinian genocide. Read it again you didn’t understand it.
It’s a pretty long article, so I probably won’t read it again. It does end with “If Judaism has to die for Palestine to live, kill it,” though. It also says that October 7th was a good and righteous attack that everyone should support.
I think that one can be against Israel without wanting the elimination of all of Judism. I also hesitate to full throatedly support an attack against civilians that happened prior to the large scale Palestinian genocide that’s been happening since 2023.
None of which is to say that Israel is some misrepresented good guy. They’re not. And they certainly aren’t the victims of the Palestinian genocide.
But I don’t think that’s grounds to hate my Jewish American neighbors. And if there’s one thing this article is abundantly clear in its stance on, it’s that all Jews, even “non-Zionist Jews,” are directly morally culpable for the Palestinian genocide.
The large-scale genocide of Palestine has happened since the Nakba. Al-Aqsa Flood was a response to genocide.
You would support the elimination of Palestinians so that a religion which has completely ingrained a genocidal ideology over the last century by the overwhelming majority of its community can survive? If more than 80% of Muslims subscribed to the Wahabism sect and thought ISIS was super rad, would you say the same?
The writer is clear that the Jewish community as a whole needs to stop using Judaism as a shield for Zionism. Even the supposed anti-Zionist Jews who constantly want to thought-police Palestinians on it. Basically this meme.
Nobody wants to throw Jews in ovens. They want Jews to stop supporting a genocidal ideology.
Based on the mod log that user seems to be a liberal Zionist:
The point behind
is not “kill all jews”, it’s that most of judaism (the religion!) today has zionism as a core pillar. And that despite that, the religion is still held more sacred than the palestinians who are genocided.
It’s recognising that 87% of todays jews are settlers of some form that pay at best lip-service to decolonisation. But even those are very very rare.
If there is hesitation to support the only armed struggle against zionist colonisation because it wasn’t perfect, then you are likely falling for hasbara or have some perfection fetishism that means there won’t ever be a liberation struggle that you support. The 7 oct breakout of the gaza concentration camp is as good as it gets, and in a country where almost everyone has served in the IDF you’ll be hard up to find someone who isn’t culpable in the palestinian genocide.
Also the genocide has been ongoing non-stop since the early 1900s. Operation Al-Aqsa flood was a defensive operation, not an aggressive one.
The author is Jewish
I’m aware. I read the article.
Ok, so you’re being knowingly dishonest.
Come on now, they could just be functionally illiterate
Look, at minimum she clearly says all Jews are morally culpable Zionists. Do you think she’s considering herself a culpable Zionist?
The word “all” is often used in ways that don’t mean literally every single one. If I say “all Americans are fat and lazy,” or “none of the users on lemmy.ml understand how language works,” do I mean that there are literally zero exceptions to that? Of course not.
She is saying that the vast majority of Jewish people, even those who disavow the actions of the state of Israel, are still just as morally culpable as the staunchest Zionist and should be treated the same. And she makes it pretty clear how she values the life of the staunchest Zionist.
So did you read it or not?
I did. I’m confused by your question.
Is it because I said “at minimum”? Because that’s simply implying that there is a potentially more charitable read of what she said, which I then outlined.
You should re-read the other responses you got outlining why you were wrong in your first comment and what the author meant. Or, if you didn’t even finish reading the article to begin with and don’t plan to, you can always just ignore us to save face and move on. People already countered what you said pretty well and explained before, if you refuse to engage with that then you come across like a troll.
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It’s because you don’t seem to have actually read the article