I also reject the framing of “Israel makes Jews unsafe/increases antisemitism” because: (1) we’re the oppressors in the context of Israel, not the victims; (2) this framing abdicates Jewish responsibility because ‘Israel’ is not an amorphous self-animating thing that merely hovers over us, it is a colony that we as Jews actively build and sustain daily through concerted generational effort; (3) that’s not “antisemitism” it’s a reaction to Jewish-led genocide which all our institutions support; (4) you’re conceding to the propaganda that there is a “rise in antisemitism” when Jews currently do not face systemic oppression for being Jewish and the “antisemitic incidents” data is tracked such that every anti-zionist protest sign is clocked as a separate “antisemitic incident” by the ADL so; (5) enough with the Jewish victimhood, “Jewish safety” and “antisemitism” talk, it’s just a distraction from Jewish-perpetrated genocide of Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims.

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    It’s a pretty long article, so I probably won’t read it again. It does end with “If Judaism has to die for Palestine to live, kill it,” though. It also says that October 7th was a good and righteous attack that everyone should support.

    I think that one can be against Israel without wanting the elimination of all of Judism. I also hesitate to full throatedly support an attack against civilians that happened prior to the large scale Palestinian genocide that’s been happening since 2023.

    None of which is to say that Israel is some misrepresented good guy. They’re not. And they certainly aren’t the victims of the Palestinian genocide.

    But I don’t think that’s grounds to hate my Jewish American neighbors. And if there’s one thing this article is abundantly clear in its stance on, it’s that all Jews, even “non-Zionist Jews,” are directly morally culpable for the Palestinian genocide.

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      You would support the elimination of Palestinians so that a religion which has completely ingrained a genocidal ideology over the last century by the overwhelming majority of its community can survive? If more than 80% of Muslims subscribed to the Wahabism sect and thought ISIS was super rad, would you say the same?

      The writer is clear that the Jewish community as a whole needs to stop using Judaism as a shield for Zionism. Even the supposed anti-Zionist Jews who constantly want to thought-police Palestinians on it. Basically this meme.

      Nobody wants to throw Jews in ovens. They want Jews to stop supporting a genocidal ideology.

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      The point behind

      “If Judaism has to die for Palestine to live, kill it,”

      is not “kill all jews”, it’s that most of judaism (the religion!) today has zionism as a core pillar. And that despite that, the religion is still held more sacred than the palestinians who are genocided.

      Almost half of the global Jewish population (~46%) are Israeli settler-squatters: They overwhelmingly support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (82%) and the current US-Israel war on Iran (93%). Most of the rest of us live as privileged white settlers in colonies like so-called Amerika (41% of Jews). Those of us living in settler-colonies outside of Israel also neglect our responsibilities as settlers toward Indigenous Land Back and Black self-determination movements where we are; On Turtle Island, Black and Indigenous genocides have persisted for 533 years and counting.

      It’s recognising that 87% of todays jews are settlers of some form that pay at best lip-service to decolonisation. But even those are very very rare.

      I also hesitate to full throatedly support an attack against civilians that happened prior to the large scale Palestinian genocide that’s been happening since 2023.

      If there is hesitation to support the only armed struggle against zionist colonisation because it wasn’t perfect, then you are likely falling for hasbara or have some perfection fetishism that means there won’t ever be a liberation struggle that you support. The 7 oct breakout of the gaza concentration camp is as good as it gets, and in a country where almost everyone has served in the IDF you’ll be hard up to find someone who isn’t culpable in the palestinian genocide.

      Also the genocide has been ongoing non-stop since the early 1900s. Operation Al-Aqsa flood was a defensive operation, not an aggressive one.

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      The large-scale genocide of Palestine has happened since the Nakba. Al-Aqsa Flood was a response to genocide.