*plays the world’s tiniest violin*
Everyone could’ve seen it coming from mile away
anyone who didnt is a fucking idiot
I think this is "stupid money’, again.
I hope this makes companies stop being “AI native”
I’ve been using it for well over a year now.
Hit my limit in 1 day and canceled.
Yup, same. x57 for GPT 5.5 now?! The GitHub agent architecture was hot as hell and allowed me to work on projects without ever bootstrapping it locally, but there is no way I’m gonna get sucked into spending hundreds a month. It felt good seeing that $250 refund come through for my yearly plan. I’ll take those funds to Claude or Codex directly. Throttled usage is way better than being fucked over by a glorified reseller.
Lol, all AI is shifting to this model. Those other companies will bait and switch too just a matter of time.
It wasn’t profitable. This bait and switch was a long time coming.
In just glad it happened relatively soon. Should have happened sooner :-)
Yup, the “first one is free” deal is always a trap.
Literal drug dealer strategy
Sigh. None of this is surprising in the least. The cost of AI infrastructure and compute (coupled with the complexity of the chain) makes it prohibitively expensive.
It only has appeared cheap because of investor money flowing like Niagara on the off-chance that it could be made cheap enough to be profitable after getting everyone addicted to using it. I really don’t think it’s there, and it’s definitely not cheap enough to continue flying for free much longer.
There will be some major bag holders soon. Who’s is gonna be? The funnelers or the funnelees? How does MS bounce back having integrated copilot into everything?
Given the recent NASDAQ changes, looks like US pension funds will end up with the bag. What a scam.
Microslop can suck it.
As in the 2008 saying: “All that money has not really disappeared. It is just in the pockets of different people”.
So a massive wealth transfer - right after Covid, ANOTHER unprecedented wealth transfer.
Side question: when are you people in the imperial core going to do something about this with all that God given Liberty™ and Freedom® you continually bomb and destabilize the rest of us for?
We got ourselves a keyboard warrior here.
A stunningly generic defensive sledge from user BassTurd, I guess.
Shakes Magic 8 Ball: Signs point to never.
B- but the DOW 🥺
Yeah, what’s the surprise here? Turns out it’s expensive.
The surprise is that they’re not continuing to throw VC money at it to bolster user numbers and mislead investors.
Microsoft was deceptive here and never made it clear exactly what sort of deal you were getting with the flat rate. There was no indication of the actual magnitude.
Yeah especially because they now have some convoluted method involving different counts of processing, cache etc. But the developer has no easy way of seeing those statistics and thus has no feel for them. And developers already have little control over how much tokens a task takes. Which was fine with the flat rate, just use the service. But now that those things actually matter, the stats should be way easier to see?
So in typical Microsoft fashion not only did they raise prices they somehow made it even more shit. Like the AI already sucked, but does the service itself need to suck as well?
Not being able to control costs and very vague productivity improvement claims makes the ROI impossible to calculate. So even if the AI wasn’t shit, it would still be hard to figure out if it’s even helping at all.
different counts of processing, cache etc
Don’t all the providers do this, though? Anthropic/Claude has different pricing based on if you’re caching for five mins vs one hour (which are the only two options for cache TTL). https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/about-claude/pricing
Copilot was uniquely awful at this, because up to until literally days before the switch to usage based billing there was no way for people to track token usage, despite repeated calls from the community.
Microsoft only added a billing “projection” feature on the admin page that was meant to download a spreadsheet (which straight up didn’t work for most people) less than a week before the new billing structure.
Ahh, that’s not great. I’ve only ever used it for free since I get the $10/month plan for free as an open-source maintainer (https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/copilot-on-github/set-up-copilot/enable-copilot/set-up-for-teachers-and-os-maintainers) so I’ve never had to deal with the billing side.
The amount of value they used to provide with the $10 plan felt too good to be true.
Well, the point here is the deception. So, if you can find a similar link from the past from Microsoft…
You’d have to be truly ignorant to not know that it was going to happen (not saying that you are). It’ll be interesting to see if there any legal recourse, but I’m guessing not.
All of these companies are hemmoraging money to train and provide LLMs. The only option is to charge more. This current increase, IMO, is an alpha test for future increases. Unless there is a major jump in the technology, moreso the logic to train LLMs more efficiently, the cost has to keep going up to stay solvent for most of these major players.
I’m not talking about ignorance here, just one of the facts about how Microsoft was being shitty.
Are you defending Microsoft’s choice to be shitty? Or just excited to share how you knew better?
Absolutely not defending Microsoft. I’m just saying that it was obvious even a couple of years ago that this current pricing model isn’t feasible. It was always part of the plan to jack up prices, because that’s how every subscription service operates. In the case of AI, the expenses are astronomical and the pricing has never been close to something resembling profit.
Microsoft announced these price increases back in April, this shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody.
It was easy to know how much the slop machine costs to run if you bothered to put even a tiny effort into finding out.
It was very much a red flag when they shut down signups.
Not me. As soon as my boss said, “Use the tool thoughtfully,” I pretty much don’t use it at all anymore.
The most thoughtful way to use it.
My reaction, exactly.
Would love to be a fly on the boardroom wall of any one of those companies which did massive layoffs “because AI”. Probably lowkey panicking on how to get their devs back.
I have pro+ and I filed an FTC complaint when the billing change was announced and encouraged others to do the same, with the hope that it may lead to a class action settlement in the future.
Good luck, buddy!
Man, enshittification is happening so fast for ai. Imagine the next big thing. It’ll be enshittified prior to release.
Basically what happened with Claude Opus 4.8
This isn’t enshittification in the traditional sense, they haven’t captured the market enough for that. They’re just panicking because they’re burning cash way too fast.
“They’re burning cash too fast”
Their most recent earnings was 82.9B just last quarter, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Ah yes. Of course, all of Microsoft just exists to subsidize GitHub AI tool usage.
That word is only used correctly about 5% of the times it is used.
Don’t wanna be “that guy”, but if if 95% of the time people use it to generally mean “greedy companies making things shitty to try and wring an extra buck”, then that just is what that word means now.
It leaves a vacuum for the concept it was originally intended to describe, but that’s how she goes.
I guess so. But the original definition was useful and encapsulated a specific thing. And the everyone discarding that definition is a bummer. But it’s not like there is anything to be done about it. And Doctoro has said he’s not too annoyed by it himself.
It’s ironic, but I could care less. You’re literally beating a dead horse.
Are suggesting the word itself has become enshittified?
Interestingly enough, not the correct use for that word lol
😏
Quick, we need a word for enshittified enshittification!
Meta kind of did that with their VR stuff. They skipped the appealing to users part and build a bland, brand-safe, microtransaction-laden experience to sell to businesses assuming they could just use their size to force users to buy it.
I think that’s because Meta acquiring Oculus was the enshitfication.
They forgot the first step where you make a great product that everyone’s clamoring to use.
„Enshittified“ implies it was ever not shit.
As a mod for the Enshitification you hate to see Enshitification in any form.
As a mod of Fuck_AI, I’ll make an exception in this one case.
COMMENCE THE ENSHITIFICATION!!!
Which completely goes against my Enshitification mod mindset, but here we are.
So…nobody told me life was going to be this way…
clap-clap-clap-clap
Enshittification strategies only work if the product actually produces revenue and it grows along with market share. Unfortunately, even if market use grows, revenue from AI is not there. Even YouTube crossed the break even boundary before the start of ad enshittification and after the Google buyout. LLMs financial projections are starting to show that it will never reach enough revenue to cover costs, much less cover ROI into infrastructure and capacity. The math isn’t mathing and investors are starting to get cold feet. So they either enshittify now or the capital soon will start vanishing.
It’ll be a macguffin that makes your life a little more convenient in some ways, but it’ll cost the equivalent of a 1996 Honda Civic to use monthly and you have to smash your hand with a hammer to turn it on
microsoft cant win a token pricing war.
comrades, time to jump on the deepseek bandwagon :D
I don’t understand why they’re building all this infrastructure in the USA.
Surely this is one of the most expensive places in the world to build, staff, maintain, and power a large AI data centre?
It must be due to the groundswell of grass roots support from the local communities where they’re trying to build them. I hear simply everyone wants one in their neighborhood, because it was just too peaceful, quiet and power was so cheap, the electric was literally leaking out of the outlets and staining the rugs.
- Announce plans to build shitload of datacenters
- Sign deal with NVIDIA to buy chips for those centers
- NVIDIA’s stock goes up. NVIDIA invest profits in AI companies
- AI companies use this money to offer tokens below market price
- AI companies say usage is up so they will need more datacenters
- Repeat until everything explodes
- Profit
The USA has great data infrastructure and comparitively cheap power compared to anywhere else that has a vaguely credible grid.
Staff barely matters, the handful of folks they need is a rounding error in the scheme of things.
Real estate in rural America is pretty cheap too. Since they don’t care about proximity to anything day to day, they just need to make sure there’s credible access to power, data, and water.
Meanwhile, they have a government that varies through different degrees of support and pretty much never wavering toward the side of making life difficult so long as they stay at home, but will make things more complicated.
If they did build somewhere that was cheaper, it would be unreliable for their customer base due to network connectivity, and they’d probably have a problem keeping their datacenter suitably powered, and some the US would get pissy about exporting that much compute.
Because other countries actually have environmental refulations with teeth. Though i do recall a company wanted to build a huge data center in Kenya https://www.techradar.com/pro/microsofts-usd1-billion-kenya-ai-data-center-project-hits-a-major-hurdle-as-the-government-says-it-would-require-switching-off-half-the-country-to-meet-power-needs
GitHubMicrosoft just switched Copilot to metered billing, and developers are watching months of credits vanish in a single dayNot sure if you don’t realize this but those are the same company.
They switched from heavily subsidizing it, to subsidizing it less. That’s going to happen with the other providers, too.
yes but continue to use the github brand because we need to remind folks that github blows
I’m not sure why anyone is surprised. The new pricing is closer to what it actually costs to provide the service.
They can’t keep subsidizing AI forever. The same thing is going to happen to other providers too.
I think a lot of people thought that they were going to pay a flat monthly fee forever. This is just the beginning.
I’ve been warning anyone who will listen that the metered token-based rates are the future for this industry. I’ve had coworkers dismiss my warnings, and now here we are. It’s gonna be a shit show once anthropic eventually switches over to token-based billing for services like Claude Code.
There might continue to be flat monthly fees with some providers, but I can imagine the prices growing to at least 10x the current prices. At the moment, a $200/month plan with Anthropic or OpenAI lets you use thousands of dollars worth of tokens per month (and even that price might currently be subsidized) which isn’t sustainable.
Watching github news from my codeberg safe place 😎🍿🍺
