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    I’m pretty sure libs would still blame the communists if the Donkey and the Elephant parties united and halted the scams called elections indefinitely.

    Both the libs and the chuds live under circumstances that most people the USA constantly oppresses can only dream about, btw.

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      “Everyone who disagrees with me is a subhuman machine” and other insane conspiracies for the right wing mind

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      I think I almost have my “Right Wing Propaganda” checklist filled in this year

      Well, since checking your modlog and seeing how you acted in this thread alone.

      the liberal checklist

      [X] genocide apologist, [X] Zionist, [X] smug, [X] racist and dehumanizing retorts to any replies that contradicts their fascist views, [X] no object permanence, [X] can’t comprehend more than 1 person existing at a given time???, [X] BLUEMAGA

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      It’s that time of the two year election cycle again.

      Yeah, time for you to wake up from your hibernation and VOTE before hibernating again for 2 years.

      [X] Communism/Socialism

      lol they’ve been saying this all year and you only notice this now because you just woke up

      [X] Stories about how both parties are the same.

      As usual, you can hibernate peacefully when it’s the blue party doing genocide. Very nice of you for being a “shill” for genocide.

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          [ X ] Right Wing Shills masquerading as Leftists.

          What’s a leftist, according to you? You’re really not beating the BlueMAGA stereotype.

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            Yep, it’s a Giga-brain move to push away any and all support for left wing candidates opposing Republicans because they don’t agree with your entire personal platform.

            That or your just a Right Wing shill getting their jollies masquerading as a leftist.

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              “left wing candidates” and you’re talking about the genocidal fascists in the democratic party… Alright buddy

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              because they don’t agree with your entire personal platform.

              what is my personal platform? What have you interpreted?

              Also you didn’t even answer my question. What is a leftist, according to you?

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                  I’m genuinely asking what you define as leftist. I am not Amerikan. I don’t know what you would as it doesn’t seem to align with the global norm for what others would call leftist.

                  But I suppose everyone who doesn’t prostrate at your feet and revere your moral and intellectual superiority is a bot or a shill or otherwise less than.

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                  “Everyone who disagrees with me is a malicious foreigner” and other insane conspiracies for the right wing mind.

                  Of course people agreeing with you would never be bots.

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      Yes I wonder why people talk more about electoral politics around election season? Truly a conundrum we will never solve.

      Of course in reality people talk about politics all the time and people shit on the democrats all the time. This is a you-problem.

      Gonna refer to my old comment for the rest of you insane right wing conspiracy about everyone disagreeing with you being some malicious agent.

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    It is a two party system. We don’t have any other options. When a socialist wants to run they run Democrat. Fascists run as Republican.

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      Its only fascism when republicans do genocide, hunt migrants for sport, expand the police state, bomb foreigners and assault protesters. When Democrats do that stuff its simply ✨nuance✨

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      Lol, you deserve to be ruled by fascists.

      There were six different candidates on my 2024 Presidential ballot. I voted for Gloria La Riva.

      The only reason “only” a candidate from the Republicrat Wall St Fellator party can win is because dumb fucks believe only one of them can win. That’s it. There is no other reason. Stop being a dumb fuck, stop voting to support genocide, and stop treating people who support a genocide as if they’re normal and doing nothing wrong while treating people who won’t cosign on a genocide as if they’re the reason your preferred Neoliberal ghoul lost the last popularity contest.

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    Political beliefs cannot be cleanly or even roughly divided by giving people labels. And certainly not by placing all people on one side of a dichotomy.

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      One side of a dichotomy

      If the dichotomy is “do you find supporting genocide acceptable”, I find that separating the people who do from the people who don’t actually begins to solve a great deal of problems.

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      even roughly divided by giving people labels.

      You people consistently misappropriate language in order to say something that makes no sense. Now “correctly describing the political ideology and actions of a political party” is some arbitrary division with random pointless labes.

      by placing all people on one side of a dichotomy.

      Good thing “all people” aren’t encompassed by “democrats and republicans”. But I got some news for you: When you are talking about “republicans or democrats” then you ARE talking about a dichotomy. Or not really, because they aren’t really opposed to each other or in any way dissimilar, but there’s two of them, which is what you were thinking of.

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          There’s no alternative party,

          There’s several alternative parties actually

          no momentum for one

          “If its not served up to me on a silver platter, then it is useless!”
          I wonder why it is that way.

          MLs arguing in favor of voting for Trump over Kamala

          Prove it. Point me to one person who is an actual principled marxist-leninist who is arguing that people should vote for Trump.

          Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out.

          1. That you dont notice at any other point in time says more about you than anyone else.
          2. The democrats themselves have no such qualms, gleefully attacking leftists at any possible point in time.

          They funded MAGA to boost the Standard Dems’ likability. Schiff did this to Katie Porter in CA as well. They specifically do this so progressives can’t win

          https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-skewered-republicans-funding-these-maga-losers-1758128

          https://www.ms.now/news/angie-nixon-florida-senate-schumer

          https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

          1. Copying here;
          1. People are vocal about not voting for democrats all the time, you just do not notice when you brain hasn’t been primed for the bi-yearly vooooote
          2. It’s election season, so it is not at all surprising that more people are talking about politics
          3. Do you really think that any government would waste resources creating a tiny bot farm for some niche webforum run by communists? Get your head out of your ass.
          4. Do you hold the same reservations when you see someone trying to get you to vote democrat? It’s not like they don’t also use bot farms

          - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/americans-are-using-bot-networks-manipulate-public-opinion-study-finds-rcna178333

          The report found that pro-Democratic activists using the hashtag #BlueCrew played a key role in spreading the discredited idea that the shooting of Trump in Butler was fake or staged.

          NCRI identified 951 accounts that engaged in “coordinated inauthentic activity” associated with a pro-Harris campaign called #BlueCrew. Those accounts posted nearly 2 million times from July 10 to Oct. 10, “exhibiting behavior indicative of organized efforts to amplify specific narratives,” the report says, most notably the narrative that Trump was not shot.

          Democratic PR firm runs bot farm for Israel

          Of course anybody who agrees with you is obviously a human. Nobody could disagree with you, they would have to be subhuman to do so.

          On top of that the war with Iran would have happened under Kamala as well

          And finally none of what you are saying is in any way insightful. It is so tired and clichéed that I usually just link to the last time I wasted my time talking through those trite “arguments”

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          Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out. Not during the primaries, when the parties can be stirred into a direction…

          Thanks for making it so plain you have the memory of a goldfish and nothing interesting to say.

          We were saying it during the primary. Leftists been saying it every day for longer than I’ve been old enough to vote, and I voted the first time in a year that started with “1”. The fact that you don’t know that means you’re deliberately not paying attention except during the general when your billionaire-owned media programmers have programmed you to notice it and be offended by it.

          The rest of the time you ignore it just like you ignore the massive dichotomy between Democrats’ rhetoric and their voting records. Just like you ignore the massive similarities between policy passed by Democrats and that passed by Republicans. You’ve been so programmed to focus on the aesthetics and the narratives that you routinely vote for the people making your life worse. Doesn’t that bother you at all?

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      Is it just me or I see it calling out the DNC cult who think they’re leftists.

      Aren’t you the ones always waiting for the next election that will magically “fix” everything and return to status quo of being unaffected by your foreign policies while it ravages people abroad?

      There are actual good people going out protesting, recording, blockading, deterring ICE. There’s people destroying surveillance tech, stopping data centers being built, shaming big oil/military industry execs at their own meetups. There’s ethical people openly calling out rapists, zionists, homophopic, racists, corrupt politicians, pigs and judges.

      ^This is actual progress. They’re most likely going to vote while also making the ruling class afraid.

      Then there are people whose only thought process goes:

      • “one more election, bro”
      • “just one more election, bro”
      • “it’ll fix everything, bro”
      • “just vote blue, bro”
      • “it’ll work this time, bro”
      • “come on, bro, this is all or nothing, bro”
      • “I don’t care about war crimes, just let me have my cheap gas, bro”
      • “Come on, bro. If you don’t vote blue, the other side is much worse bro”
      • “they have no serious platform except populist propaganda, but they’ll only kill children in middle east and that’s fine by me, bro”
      • “please, bro. just one more election, bro”

      Weak

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      Liberals be like: if you think people outside of the USA and Europe are human, you are an evangelical Christian.

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      Hot take of the day: Democrats are actually just evangelicals with the serial numbers filed off. The world is a MAGA hellscape, but we just have to wait until the blue team is in power again when everything will magically be fixed. Any attempt to do anything other than voting makes you MAGA. Anything less than BLUE TEAM PRESIDENT is completely useless. Also voting for any third party or doing anything other than voting is accelerationism.

      Addendum: It’s also full of fun contradictions - just like the bible! Voting for genociders is the best way to stop the genocide! Voting for democrats is somehow good for immigrants, even though Biden deported more than Trump 1 and Harris ran on having a harsher immigration policy, neat! You have to vote for democrats in order to protect Roe v. Wade - the thing that got overturned under Biden, which Biden did nothing about. Fun!

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      Yes, and just like the second coming a revolution has never happened. /s

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            But the US/west continuously try to destroy their economies, kill their leaders, foment social unrest, commit sabotage.

            Clearly the concept is a failure. ;)

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                Laos doesn’t get much attention because they haven’t had much chance to develop after the US razed the whole country to the ground and left a bunch of mines and unexploded ordinance that are still being removed to this day. But they do have a communist party in charge, and China has been actively helping them recently.

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              By almost every metric they were massively successful seeing some of the largest leaps in life expectancy in history side by side with the largest strides in poverty alleviation, infant mortality and more.

              If you exclude just China alone from global poverty statistics global poverty by headcount is worse today than in 1981.

              Not that you really care you just want to pontificate from your soapbox about “the silly Marxists” who dare to actually wish for and push for better.

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                  Americans care about freedom. You should probably learn this

                  So we’ve moved from most people to Americans. Interesting. Also given America has the largest prison population in the world in raw numbers not even per capita I’m not sure that’s particularly true, especially when American prisons are by design essentially slavery.

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                  Americans care about freedom

                  Yes the freedom to be free to be terrible and racist to others, or be free to appear to get the chance to be extraordinarily wealthy not anything related to actual freedom

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                  “Uhh sure peoples lives got twice as long and they went from feudalism to space in one lifetime and are now the dominant world power but OH THE NONSPECIFIC COMMUNIST HORRORS, OHHH HOW TERRIBLY COMMUNISM HAS FAILED.”

                  TheFinn

                  Proud Axis power doomily vagueposting about socialism. Fork found in kitchen.

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                  Moving the goalposts. If you want to start a new discussion how about you finish the previous one first?

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                  Your argument is that the revolutions were unsuccessful. In what way is the PRC worse than the republic of china?

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          Other people have talked about socialist revolutions, which are indeed great examples. But we can’t forget the global bourgeois revolutions that lead to capitalism throughout the world. Without those we would still be stuck in feudalism. While capitalism has many flaws it’s much better than feudalism in many ways.

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        Yeah you can spot these types pretty easily in this thread.

        What are the tells?

        any time you see someone respond to the truth: “there is a two party system in every election and one of them will win whether you like it or not”

        With: “both sides do genocide”

        So you deny that the Democrats are contributing towards the genocide? Or that you’re just being honest and that you don’t care?

        It’s obvious they might not actually tie their own shoelaces.

        It’s obvious you lot have no object permanence.

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            The point is that it’s a non-sequiter. “Buh both sides.” Isn’t a sane response to “one of them is going to win anyway.”

            So what is your thought on the genocide? Seems like you can justify voting for it since “one of them is going to win anyway”?

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            I can’t tie my shoes (therefore I have geox)

            Explain how that’s diminishing the validity of my comments. Take the mask off. Show everyone your true form.