• BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    There’s no alternative party,

    There’s several alternative parties actually

    no momentum for one

    “If its not served up to me on a silver platter, then it is useless!”
    I wonder why it is that way.

    MLs arguing in favor of voting for Trump over Kamala

    Prove it. Point me to one person who is an actual principled marxist-leninist who is arguing that people should vote for Trump.

    Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out.

    1. That you dont notice at any other point in time says more about you than anyone else.
    2. The democrats themselves have no such qualms, gleefully attacking leftists at any possible point in time.

    They funded MAGA to boost the Standard Dems’ likability. Schiff did this to Katie Porter in CA as well. They specifically do this so progressives can’t win

    https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-skewered-republicans-funding-these-maga-losers-1758128

    https://www.ms.now/news/angie-nixon-florida-senate-schumer

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

    1. Copying here;
    1. People are vocal about not voting for democrats all the time, you just do not notice when you brain hasn’t been primed for the bi-yearly vooooote
    2. It’s election season, so it is not at all surprising that more people are talking about politics
    3. Do you really think that any government would waste resources creating a tiny bot farm for some niche webforum run by communists? Get your head out of your ass.
    4. Do you hold the same reservations when you see someone trying to get you to vote democrat? It’s not like they don’t also use bot farms

    - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/americans-are-using-bot-networks-manipulate-public-opinion-study-finds-rcna178333

    The report found that pro-Democratic activists using the hashtag #BlueCrew played a key role in spreading the discredited idea that the shooting of Trump in Butler was fake or staged.

    NCRI identified 951 accounts that engaged in “coordinated inauthentic activity” associated with a pro-Harris campaign called #BlueCrew. Those accounts posted nearly 2 million times from July 10 to Oct. 10, “exhibiting behavior indicative of organized efforts to amplify specific narratives,” the report says, most notably the narrative that Trump was not shot.

    Democratic PR firm runs bot farm for Israel

    Of course anybody who agrees with you is obviously a human. Nobody could disagree with you, they would have to be subhuman to do so.

    On top of that the war with Iran would have happened under Kamala as well

    And finally none of what you are saying is in any way insightful. It is so tired and clichéed that I usually just link to the last time I wasted my time talking through those trite “arguments”

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        the system is rigged

        you got trump elected a second time

        such as the time you guys elected trump a second time

        You contradict yourself. The system is rigged, but the outcome is our fault?

        Tough shit that you don’t like dems, right now, there’s no other choice

        But also:

        the system is rigged

        So that means they read your ballot card, and murder you if you didn’t vote dems?

        Listen I don’t know how else to get the point across, nobody remembers anyone going up against Hitler. They just remember Hitler and the people who put and kept him up there.

        Hindenburg went up against hitler in the election. Hindenburg got elected, hitler did not. Then hindenburg appointed hitler chancellor. So if you want to compare harris to hindenburg, uhh…

        Trump’s odds of getting away with all the shit he’s doing

        You want trump gone because he blarts out the genocidal empire’s crimes instead of covering them up.

        I want usa gone because it exports annoying ads.

        We are enemies.

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        Lmao this is the most asinine irrational bullshit I’ve read so far. You demand proof for third party votes mattering, yet blame third party voters for the democrats losing (even though there was no state where they made up enough to make a difference), you want proof of a third party winning the presidential election (the republican party would be one such example) despite that not being what I argued - Instead I argued your defeatism is the reason no such party can come to prominence, which you conveniently failed to ignore - you reduce the fact that Democrats dont adhere to “now is not the time” to “they were mean” instead of engaging with it as the refutation of your line of argument that it is, you manage to completely ignore the reasoning behind Trump being on par with Democrats and you finally make an ahistoric allusion to a fantasy version of how Hitler came to power. If I had a bingo-board for Liberal half-wits then you would have given me the prize already.
        I am very happy it took you this long to activate enough of your long-dormant neurons to be able to hit the right buttons on the keyboard, because now there is no longer an audience so there is no need to adress you in order to speak to other readers, and since you’ve shown yourself to completely irrational there is also nothing to be gained from discussion personally.

        So this is likely to be my last response to you in this thread unless you manage to make a surprising 180 and turn into a normal person capable of reason.

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            4 days ago

            Both parties are fascist.
            You are using “no true scotsman” wrong.
            I have not been talking about some vague revolution starting randomly.
            So you got it all wrong. Try to engage with the text.

            Also where’s your proof of all your crazy ramblings? You demand it yet when asked yourself you can only make vague allusions. On the other hand I have given several sources to back up my assertions.