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      Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out. Not during the primaries, when the parties can be stirred into a direction…

      Thanks for making it so plain you have the memory of a goldfish and nothing interesting to say.

      We were saying it during the primary. Leftists been saying it every day for longer than I’ve been old enough to vote, and I voted the first time in a year that started with “1”. The fact that you don’t know that means you’re deliberately not paying attention except during the general when your billionaire-owned media programmers have programmed you to notice it and be offended by it.

      The rest of the time you ignore it just like you ignore the massive dichotomy between Democrats’ rhetoric and their voting records. Just like you ignore the massive similarities between policy passed by Democrats and that passed by Republicans. You’ve been so programmed to focus on the aesthetics and the narratives that you routinely vote for the people making your life worse. Doesn’t that bother you at all?

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          Im not arguing in defense of the Democrats

          Liar liar pants on fire

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          They carried out undeniable evils in the world, but the depth of the corruption and evil that has been unleashed upon the entire world purely out of the foolishness, borderline evilness, of Americans getting Trump into power TWICE… It’s impossible to ignore.

          And what, in your mind, Is the unique and horrible evil that Trump has perpetrated that Biden, Obama, and Clinton didn’t?

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              So that’s a solid “no” on being able to provide examples of Trump’s evil that are unique and not also done by Democrats?

              Your entire political outlook is based on vibes you got from billionaire owned media?

              That’s about what I expected.

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                  Your inability to understand a simply stated premise doesn’t make the premise wrong.

                  Your insipid screed only proves that you’re incapable of imagining any other exercise of power other than voting, and that you’re incapable of imagining the exercise of that power in any way you haven’t been given permission to use it by the people who don’t want you to use it to stop them.

                  Maybe don’t go back to brunch in between elections and start to think of people outside the US as human and you’ll figure out what we mean.

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      There’s no alternative party,

      There’s several alternative parties actually

      no momentum for one

      “If its not served up to me on a silver platter, then it is useless!”
      I wonder why it is that way.

      MLs arguing in favor of voting for Trump over Kamala

      Prove it. Point me to one person who is an actual principled marxist-leninist who is arguing that people should vote for Trump.

      Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out.

      1. That you dont notice at any other point in time says more about you than anyone else.
      2. The democrats themselves have no such qualms, gleefully attacking leftists at any possible point in time.

      They funded MAGA to boost the Standard Dems’ likability. Schiff did this to Katie Porter in CA as well. They specifically do this so progressives can’t win

      https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-skewered-republicans-funding-these-maga-losers-1758128

      https://www.ms.now/news/angie-nixon-florida-senate-schumer

      https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

      1. Copying here;
      1. People are vocal about not voting for democrats all the time, you just do not notice when you brain hasn’t been primed for the bi-yearly vooooote
      2. It’s election season, so it is not at all surprising that more people are talking about politics
      3. Do you really think that any government would waste resources creating a tiny bot farm for some niche webforum run by communists? Get your head out of your ass.
      4. Do you hold the same reservations when you see someone trying to get you to vote democrat? It’s not like they don’t also use bot farms

      - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/americans-are-using-bot-networks-manipulate-public-opinion-study-finds-rcna178333

      The report found that pro-Democratic activists using the hashtag #BlueCrew played a key role in spreading the discredited idea that the shooting of Trump in Butler was fake or staged.

      NCRI identified 951 accounts that engaged in “coordinated inauthentic activity” associated with a pro-Harris campaign called #BlueCrew. Those accounts posted nearly 2 million times from July 10 to Oct. 10, “exhibiting behavior indicative of organized efforts to amplify specific narratives,” the report says, most notably the narrative that Trump was not shot.

      Democratic PR firm runs bot farm for Israel

      Of course anybody who agrees with you is obviously a human. Nobody could disagree with you, they would have to be subhuman to do so.

      On top of that the war with Iran would have happened under Kamala as well

      And finally none of what you are saying is in any way insightful. It is so tired and clichéed that I usually just link to the last time I wasted my time talking through those trite “arguments”

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          the system is rigged

          you got trump elected a second time

          such as the time you guys elected trump a second time

          You contradict yourself. The system is rigged, but the outcome is our fault?

          Tough shit that you don’t like dems, right now, there’s no other choice

          But also:

          the system is rigged

          So that means they read your ballot card, and murder you if you didn’t vote dems?

          Listen I don’t know how else to get the point across, nobody remembers anyone going up against Hitler. They just remember Hitler and the people who put and kept him up there.

          Hindenburg went up against hitler in the election. Hindenburg got elected, hitler did not. Then hindenburg appointed hitler chancellor. So if you want to compare harris to hindenburg, uhh…

          Trump’s odds of getting away with all the shit he’s doing

          You want trump gone because he blarts out the genocidal empire’s crimes instead of covering them up.

          I want usa gone because it exports annoying ads.

          We are enemies.

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          Lmao this is the most asinine irrational bullshit I’ve read so far. You demand proof for third party votes mattering, yet blame third party voters for the democrats losing (even though there was no state where they made up enough to make a difference), you want proof of a third party winning the presidential election (the republican party would be one such example) despite that not being what I argued - Instead I argued your defeatism is the reason no such party can come to prominence, which you conveniently failed to ignore - you reduce the fact that Democrats dont adhere to “now is not the time” to “they were mean” instead of engaging with it as the refutation of your line of argument that it is, you manage to completely ignore the reasoning behind Trump being on par with Democrats and you finally make an ahistoric allusion to a fantasy version of how Hitler came to power. If I had a bingo-board for Liberal half-wits then you would have given me the prize already.
          I am very happy it took you this long to activate enough of your long-dormant neurons to be able to hit the right buttons on the keyboard, because now there is no longer an audience so there is no need to adress you in order to speak to other readers, and since you’ve shown yourself to completely irrational there is also nothing to be gained from discussion personally.

          So this is likely to be my last response to you in this thread unless you manage to make a surprising 180 and turn into a normal person capable of reason.

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              Both parties are fascist.
              You are using “no true scotsman” wrong.
              I have not been talking about some vague revolution starting randomly.
              So you got it all wrong. Try to engage with the text.

              Also where’s your proof of all your crazy ramblings? You demand it yet when asked yourself you can only make vague allusions. On the other hand I have given several sources to back up my assertions.