• ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip
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    Political beliefs cannot be cleanly or even roughly divided by giving people labels. And certainly not by placing all people on one side of a dichotomy.

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      One side of a dichotomy

      If the dichotomy is “do you find supporting genocide acceptable”, I find that separating the people who do from the people who don’t actually begins to solve a great deal of problems.

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      even roughly divided by giving people labels.

      You people consistently misappropriate language in order to say something that makes no sense. Now “correctly describing the political ideology and actions of a political party” is some arbitrary division with random pointless labes.

      by placing all people on one side of a dichotomy.

      Good thing “all people” aren’t encompassed by “democrats and republicans”. But I got some news for you: When you are talking about “republicans or democrats” then you ARE talking about a dichotomy. Or not really, because they aren’t really opposed to each other or in any way dissimilar, but there’s two of them, which is what you were thinking of.

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          There’s no alternative party,

          There’s several alternative parties actually

          no momentum for one

          “If its not served up to me on a silver platter, then it is useless!”
          I wonder why it is that way.

          MLs arguing in favor of voting for Trump over Kamala

          Prove it. Point me to one person who is an actual principled marxist-leninist who is arguing that people should vote for Trump.

          Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out.

          1. That you dont notice at any other point in time says more about you than anyone else.
          2. The democrats themselves have no such qualms, gleefully attacking leftists at any possible point in time.

          They funded MAGA to boost the Standard Dems’ likability. Schiff did this to Katie Porter in CA as well. They specifically do this so progressives can’t win

          https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-skewered-republicans-funding-these-maga-losers-1758128

          https://www.ms.now/news/angie-nixon-florida-senate-schumer

          https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/09/aipac-republican-donors-democratic-primaries-00162404

          1. Copying here;
          1. People are vocal about not voting for democrats all the time, you just do not notice when you brain hasn’t been primed for the bi-yearly vooooote
          2. It’s election season, so it is not at all surprising that more people are talking about politics
          3. Do you really think that any government would waste resources creating a tiny bot farm for some niche webforum run by communists? Get your head out of your ass.
          4. Do you hold the same reservations when you see someone trying to get you to vote democrat? It’s not like they don’t also use bot farms

          - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/americans-are-using-bot-networks-manipulate-public-opinion-study-finds-rcna178333

          The report found that pro-Democratic activists using the hashtag #BlueCrew played a key role in spreading the discredited idea that the shooting of Trump in Butler was fake or staged.

          NCRI identified 951 accounts that engaged in “coordinated inauthentic activity” associated with a pro-Harris campaign called #BlueCrew. Those accounts posted nearly 2 million times from July 10 to Oct. 10, “exhibiting behavior indicative of organized efforts to amplify specific narratives,” the report says, most notably the narrative that Trump was not shot.

          Democratic PR firm runs bot farm for Israel

          Of course anybody who agrees with you is obviously a human. Nobody could disagree with you, they would have to be subhuman to do so.

          On top of that the war with Iran would have happened under Kamala as well

          And finally none of what you are saying is in any way insightful. It is so tired and clichéed that I usually just link to the last time I wasted my time talking through those trite “arguments”

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          Now similar voices are speaking, reminding everyone that both parties are the same in the worst possible moments to point that out. Not during the primaries, when the parties can be stirred into a direction…

          Thanks for making it so plain you have the memory of a goldfish and nothing interesting to say.

          We were saying it during the primary. Leftists been saying it every day for longer than I’ve been old enough to vote, and I voted the first time in a year that started with “1”. The fact that you don’t know that means you’re deliberately not paying attention except during the general when your billionaire-owned media programmers have programmed you to notice it and be offended by it.

          The rest of the time you ignore it just like you ignore the massive dichotomy between Democrats’ rhetoric and their voting records. Just like you ignore the massive similarities between policy passed by Democrats and that passed by Republicans. You’ve been so programmed to focus on the aesthetics and the narratives that you routinely vote for the people making your life worse. Doesn’t that bother you at all?