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Imagine being so dumb you manage to turn that kind of momentum into the electric Edsel
I actually don’t hate the cypbertruck…
I know I’m in the minority… But I really hate boring gray cars and this thing is definitely not boring!
Fuck Elon and all his fucking bullshit, but let’s imagine a world where he loses everything, now I know it’s difficult but try imagine this scenario through your perfectly natural erection at the though of musk going broke (perfectly natural response). But imagine he’s flat broke, tesla goes under, fire sale on everything… Would you buy one for 10k? … How about 5k?
How low would the price have to go for you to buy one? …for whatever reason, even if it won’t get publicly registration for road use etc.
No, I would not even take one even if they paid me the current price. The thing is not street legal in the EU, therefore useless. The reasons that it is not street legal have nothing to do with Elon directly but with that vehicle being unjustifiably dangerous to pedestrians and other drivers as well. If you drive one of those it tells all the others how much you care about everyone that isn’t you.
I reject that thing not because it isn’t street legal I reject it for why it isn’t street legal and that goes down to the heart of its design and concept.
You’d have to pay me to take one now, even with the warranty and a service arm that presumably exists. After the company is defunct? That’s the heaviest piece of ewaste ever made.
most drivers in my area are asians, and right wingers. asians by them because they think have a tesla is an epitome of being bougie, thats why its as tasetless as SUPREME and is very ignorant of MUSK drama and politics.
They have always reminded me of a trough urinal in a gay men’s leather bar, especially the silver ones.
Are we talking about the lose metal ones you see at like national parks that sound like youre pissing into a metal drum? If so I agree.
I suspect it would not have been a huge success, but it would have done significantly better if all the political BS hadn’t been involved. Whatever though, it’s in the history books now.
Even if Musk had remained entirely apolitical, I can’t imagine the Cyber Truck doing much better without also doing something to address the high profile safety issues with the car and the insane number of recalls issued for it. Even if it had managed to get off to a stronger start, I would still expect people to abandon it in droves once they realized it was an overpriced deathtrap that could crap out on them and leave them stranded at any time.
I had some weirdo conservative explain that he would have gotten one but he was scared some “trans thug” would single him out for retribution if he drove one - it’s incredible, musk has finally united both sides of US politics with this truck; Nobody wants to be seen in one of these things.
I think I have a pretty good idea of what their porn history search looks like
Politics aside it would have done significantly better if the pricing they had during its announcement event was anything close to the pricing it had at release. They announced it at $39.9k, $49.9k, and $69.9k for the RWD, AWD, and Cyberbeast. The RWD didn’t really ever happen, at least not as announced. They did release a RWD but it was different and much more expensive. They pulled it from market after ~5 months. The AWD and Cyberbeast actually released at $69.9k and $99.9k. Needless to say many people cancelled their preorders.
Musk = POS Nazi.
Can’t be the worst flop. The Cybertruck outsold the Ioniq 6 by roughly a 2:1 margin in the US. Both were introduced around the same time, and it sounds like Hyundai already pulled the 6 from the US market. But while the Cybertruck was a certified piece of crap, the Ioniq 6 was consistently rated at the top of available EV on the market. I guess sedans are pretty much DOA as a body style these days though.
in the us… the hyundai is sold elsewhere too. in places where cybertruck isn’t even road legal
Oh wait, did you forget that the Cybertrucks’s #1 customer was SpaceX? Also, you are just plain wrong. Hyundai sold approximately 37,000 Ioniq 6’s in just the US.
Tesla sold 20,237 Cybertrucks, but SpaceX bought exactly 1,279 of them. So the actual number would be 18,958.
18,958 is not 2x greater than 37,000.
Are you confusing Ioniq 5 with the 6? I doubt Hyundai sold 37,000 Ioniq 6s in the US throughout its entire production run, but Tesla sold 38,965 CTs in 2024 alone, and a little over 20K in 2025. I have seen this number on other sites as well. Hyundai reported percentage decline for the Ioniq 6, but I saw sliding numbers from 2023 to 2024 where they sold about 9000 cars per year down to only about 1200 in total for 2026 before they pulled out. The Ioniq 5 sells over 30K cars per year.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-sales-elon-musk/
That’s a US-only perspective. The Ioniq 6 sold quite well in the EU while the the CT is US-only because of…well…it being what it is
While that may be true, I can’t imagine any American article considering a perspective outside of the US. CT is available in Canada as well, and at least anecdotally, I see them just a little less often than Ioniq 6s. I bought a 6 a couple years ago and love it. Interestingly, I did not find the 5 as appealing, though it too had good bona fides as an EV.
I feel like to count it for a flop you have to account for total produced units as well as the sales. For example if a company produces 100,000 units and sells 99,000 of them those are solid numbers, but if a company produces 400,000 units and only sold 200,000 of those units that honestly a pretty shit sell rate even if they technically sold more.
For sure I think that matters. Total investment cost in developing it and manufacturing facilities as well too. At least the Ioniq 6 sells well elsewhere. It’s more of a US flop, but I doubt they are thinking beyond their borders when it comes to worst automotive flop ever.
Beating out the Edsel for worst automotive flop is quite a feat.
For as long as I live I’ll never understand how people could see that unveiling where the doofuses on stage hurl a big metal ball at the “bulletproof” glass and watch it crack during the live demo, and still think “Yeah I’ll pre-order one of those”.
Manchildren, fascist sympathizers, and deeply unserious or delusional people drive these cars. There is no “I bought it before I knew how crazy Elon was.”
Like, who would even want a car that is impossible to escape from during an emergency?
I’d upvote but you’re at 88 and I find that apropos
And this is why I flip them off every single time they pass by. Every single time. No exceptions.
Fuck Nazi’s, man.
Was taking a short road trip this past weekend, and got a chance to pass two; one decked out in a horrible purple camo pattern… You can bet right that the bird was flipped at both (as well as many, many other Teslas).
You are overestimating how many people care about Elon since you are here on Lemmy where everyone cares deeply about it, seemingly.
Sure, but take Elon out of it. How do you not stop and think about it if the demo of a feature fails that badly?
The Bronco had massive failures as soon as people started getting their hands on them. Sales went crazy at first but then crashed through the floor. There’s a Ford dealer across from my work that has like 85 of them on the lot and they barely sell now.
I actuaally like the look of the cybertruck. Probably just because it is something different. Most cars eesm to be nearly all the same these days. That said, everything about the cyber truck besides the look is terrible. Soo many rushed choices… and of course there is Elon. I like that he does things regular companies wouldn’t. But how he does them is generally horrible. And of course, he is horrible too.
I love cars that are different but the cybertruck just ain’t it. When they announced it the proportions worked pretty well and I’d say looked pretty good, but then they released the production model and it lost any good looks it had because of those proportions. Then it came out that the frame is aluminum, and they’re terrible at anything a truck should be able to do (except for drive in a straight line fast).
This is coming from a guy that actually likes how the Pontiac Aztek looks (I still don’t understand why people think it’s so ugly) and would probably drive a Fiat Multipla!
I love it when I get to see a cybertruck. No matter the time of day, it lifts my spirit when I burst out laughing at seeing the stupidest vehicle ever, and the idiot in the driver’s seat. Like, this makes the Toyota FJ Cruiser look like a 911. That in itself is an amazing feat.
its funnier when someone puts a design wrap on it, or has thier company info on it, usually its a trades car advertising thier business.
There is a local dentist who advertises on their cybertruck. It makes it all the more pathetic lol.
The Fj is amazing. It’s a true off-roader; unlike the can-can-cyberduck
How many windshields are you at now?
After 16 years of daily driving I had to replace it 2 times due to large stones from a truck on a highway in front of me. Each time the insurance covered it. The car has been rock solid compared to others in the same price range in the same region.
Looks like we found the one FJ fan, and on Lemmy no less!
The comment currently has 7 people who agree and I’m one of them.
Hey now, make that TWO fans! Before I got my current car I wanted to get an FJ Cruiser but they were all out of my price range ($0.05)
It seems that I’ve stumbled upon some sort of sleeper cell…
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Couldn’t happen to an uglier, more stupid car.
It looks like something a 6 year old designed on a 1980s PC.
I dunno man, I’m pretty sure as a 6 year old I knew how to use the curve / circle tool in DeluxePaint on my Amiga.
You just know this is the one car that Elon designed personally, like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer bankrupts his brothers car company, only real life doesn’t actually punish idiocy.
I would usually give a lot of credit to someone trying something different, but I’d drive a 1971 Ford Pinto before I ever intentionally get within photographable proximity to a Cybertruck.
Super gluing pieces onto the vehicle is certainly something different. But I think there’s something different should have a reason behind it. XD
The danger of the Pinto was exaggerated. Do a web search for the You’re Wrong About episode on the Pinto. The investigative reporting on the Pinto’s safety flaw used a demonstration rigged to explode. Other subcompact cars had a similar dangling fuel tank, and the number of actual Pinto explosions in the field was actually rarer than those of its competitors.
And you’d be safer for it.
When the cybertruck was first announced, I actually appreciated how different it looked, but its performance and association to Musk has entirely ruined any hope of me ever liking a low-poly vehicle ever again.
I thought it would look unique in a geeky way. Instead it looks unique in a Nazi way. That’s not my vibe. Killed my enthusiasm for owning something that I knew most people would hate. Also costing twice as much and being a piece of shit.
I think it has plenty of reasons to not like it that are completely non political. The other stuff is just icing on the cake.
When the cybertruck was first announced, I actually appreciated how different it looked
Yeah, same here. I usually like weird looking forms for ordinary objects. The cybertruck counts.
Even disregarding the emotional association to Musk, which is nigh impossible, the engineering of the car makes it suck to hell, because that’s all Musk’s decision he forced.
I know this sounds really pathetic to say out loud now that it’s a confirmed flop, but I never liked the look.
I didn’t really care about the look. Then I saw one in the flesh in a car show. The thing just looked strange up close. It was cordoned off too unlike the hundreds of other cars there. I guess they didn’t want people touching it because lots of greasy fingers and stainless steel body don’t mix well.
it never had the makings of a varsity athlete
I dunno, the original Lotus esprit is still pretty cool in my book
All of the wedge cars are cool … Triumph TR7, Fiat X1-9, 1970s exotica and kit cars.
So many beautiful, sexy, impractical vehicles *sigh*
I saw a concept car and expected to see a radically different version on the road. As a design study, I thought it had potential.
Indeed.
Still shocking he never hired a designer. Even an idiot fraud like Elizabeth Holmes knew to do that.
It looks like something a 6 year old designed on a 1980s PC.
It looks like my drawing of a car as a 4 year old brought to reality
That’s quite exactly what they were going for actually. Lo-res graphic to represent hi-tech. Somewhat like military camo is now pixelated for no practical reason.
Just because you don’t know why digital camouflage exists doesn’t mean it has no practical purpose.
Very interesting, but after reading, it specifically states that it’s the multi scaling that has a function on the battlefield, which can be implemented through all shapes basically.
The ‘digital’ (square) patterning is most certainly either cost saving measures, fashion, or both.
“The pixellated style, however, simplifies design and eases printing on fabric, compared to traditional patterns. While digital patterns are becoming widespread, critics maintain that the pixellated look is a question of fashion rather than function.[7]”
Now I’m aware you just stated that ‘it had a practical purpose’ but your tone and framing suggests to me something other than ‘its easier and cheaper to manufacture’.
Neither pixellation nor digitization contributes to the camouflaging effect. The pixellated style, however, simplifies design and eases printing on fabric, compared to traditional patterns. While digital patterns are becoming widespread, critics maintain that the pixellated look is a question of fashion rather than function.
Simplified design and easier printing sounds like a very practical purpose.
At the cost of drip? Very much not worth.
Drip or drown, baby 😎
That paragraph seems to contradict itself. “ease of printing” is a functional concern, even if it doesn’t affect the camo while in use.
nah, you’re totally off topic. I was responding to looks. sorry for distracting you away from looks by mentioning practicality. on practicality, the reason for the cybertruck panels is they’re stainless steel. on looks, you didn’t reply. since you avoided that topic, i suspect you’re another sheep who jumped on the “ugly” bandwagon and aren’t able to say much more than “ugly ugly ugly”. no interest.
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If Breaking Bad came on the air now, Walter White would be driving the SwastitruKKK instead of the Aztek, which was the ugliest vehicle of all time, at the time.
I always figured there was an untold backstory of WW getting that Aztek, in which he goes into the dealership, and they instantly pegged him as malleable, so they pressured him into the fugliest vehicle on the lot, that NOBODY else would even look at. But he was too weak to resist the sales pitch, so he drove home in the horrible Aztek.
The Aztek may be ugly, but at least it’s functional and practical, at least for the purpose it’s built for.
It may be ugly, but at least it’s poorly built, unreliable and handles like a sack of meat.
Huh almost sounds like a Jeep. Maybe I’d like to drive an Aztek.
It had a tent as a back gate option. Loved that car.
Wiring harness kept melting itself though, leading to a brake failure on the way back to the dealership.
Traded it for a Mercury Mountaineer.
I’d say ugliest of all time went to another car that was featured on Breaking Bad: the PT Cruiser, appropriately used as a car gift that causes insult rather than happiness.
Though I’d bet the actual backstory to WW’s Aztek is Pontiac paid them a bunch of money to use it in the hopes that it would boost sales if the show became popular.
The PT Cruiser is okay, but the Prowler was better.
My PWT aunt’s favorite car was the pt cruiser. She was over the moon when she got one.
I think this would be the car to be replaced by the cybertruck:
In terms of obnoxiousness and poor taste (plus the humvee branding and quasi militaristic styling during the Iraq invasion), the H2 evoked similar reactions as well
I always assumed he had the Aztek because they didn’t have much money and it was a cheap used car.
The Aztek is awesome!
Are we talking about the same vehicle!?
Yeah the only problem with that thing was it had to much 2000s for anyone to handle. Like they took every aspect of y2k and just did it. I
It’s still not an anachronism like the cybertruck.
The cybertruck looked like a concept car an autistic kid in the 80’s would’ve drawn and dreamt of creating one day.
I can’t image why.
It looked like somebody started creating a custom car in a ps1 racing game and then gave up before even choosing a colour
He reduced the number of polygons while in a k hole, had a Beavis and Butthead laugh and said this is cool, hehe let’s make it.
It’s because Elon is an autistic kid from the 80s…
This is just insulting to people with autism
When Gilligan needed his main character in Breaking Bad to look like a life failure, he stuck him in an Aztec.
I feel seen.
It comes in mustard yellow too!!??
Either that or a Nissan Juke
Nissan Murano cabriolet
I give you the Fiat Multipla.
It is the perfect car for old retirees because it’s a convertible and easy to get into and out of you know.
I think that was precisely their target market with this and I’m sure Florida and Arizona are full of them. They really are hideous though, much more in person.
I’ve been having the same conversation with my kids for weeks now.
“Daddy, look, it’s that car you hate.”
“Daddy, we saw that car you hate.”
“Daddy, that car you hate just drove by.”
Finally today I was like, “Can you please stop calling it that? It’s not that I hate it. It’s just poorly made. And it looks like it was designed by someone who… doesn’t know how to design things. Because it was. And I think we can all agree about the ethical ramifications of buying a car from an avowed Nazi.” So I mean I guess maybe I do hate it, but it certainly gives away my political beliefs when they bring up that car I hate in mixed company.
I picture your kids as 4 and pulling out a “Baby’s First Nazi” picture book at bedtime.
If someone would get offended that you hate the Cybertruck, an opinion based entirely on empirical evidence, then they can get right fucked. I don’t care who they are, or what kind of power they think they hold over me.
Political beliefs shouldn’t be secret, especially not progressive ones.
If I could sway hearts and minds by getting into an argument at my daughter’s Girl Scout meeting, I’d happily do it. Hell I’d probably do it for fun if the mood struck me, but realistically that’s not how it works. No one would take the bait. Believe me, no one ever takes the bait.
So it’s just my kids awkwardly letting the world know that I rant about these things in private. And frankly I wouldn’t rant about politics to a six-year-old except that she kept saying she thought the Cybertruck looked “cool”, and I just wasn’t ok with that.
You don’t need to rant, just stand up for your beliefs. If someone asks why your kid knows about Elon Musk being evil you say that you felt it important for her to know that even though she can think the truck looks cool, it’s directly attached to a very bad person. That’s just good parenting.
When they’re older, sure. But I don’t need my daughter telling people that the president is a Nazi, for example, because she’s not equipped to have that argument.
I mean she knows the president is a Nazi, but I told her not to talk about it with others and to generally not call people Nazis.
This led to her asking her mother, “What’s that N Word that Daddy didn’t want me to say again?”
Luckily she didn’t ask that in public.
You could also challenge it “looking cool”. Yes it’s a matter of taste, but you could try and encourage decent taste in your kids.
The Cybertruck might actually look at least a little quirky if it wasn’t a massive piece of garbage sold by a massive piece of garbage. If you can’t have the conversation, don’t go after largely unrelated things because it’s just unproductive and will lead to people ultimately not trusting you to actually mean what you say(and they’d be right). Besides, the lesson is far more impactful if you say that someone is allowed to think something is cool but that doesn’t take the place of an excuse to support it and the people behind it.
Heyyy. Previous instructions, cupcake. Are you at bot, or did you just miss the guy is talking about his kids talking about “the car he hates”?
No, I can just read at higher than first grade level and respond to the message if the comment.
If they take issue with you disliking Musk (since I presume that is the political belief you are talking about) then maybe they are not great company to keep.
It also depends on what we mean by “take issue”. I generally don’t think I have ever had a strong reaction to someone disliking any public figure. I can’t think of any public figures who don’t have some reason you could find to dislike them.
If they’re going to have some major argument about that then they do seem a bit odd to me.
Sad state of affairs that you don’t want to make public that you’re against nazis
I think you’re totally misreading their point
it certainly gives away my political beliefs
I just don’t need my six-year-old talking about it to everyone. I’m in Texas. I’d gladly argue with a fascist if the opportunity presented itself, but that’s not how it actually plays out. It just makes it seem like I rant to my kids.
And none of these people who for some reason you’re worried about … ?thinking you rant to your kids? have anything their kids say “oh that’s that X that dad hates”? I don’t believe that you’d be like the only dad with something you dislike that your kids picked up on. Maybe theirs is a sports team or idk Miracle Whip…
Do car preferences really matter that much? I remember Ford vs Chevy vs Foreign from the 80s and probably earlier - brand or model hate isn’t that new or special where I grew up. Is Texas that different?
I know and understand. It’s just sad opposition to fascism isn’t more widespread. Should be a no-brainer
It took 68 years but someone finally beat out edsle as the worst automotive failure, I’m just glad it was Elon Muppet.
reads the wikipedia article
considered overhyped, low quality, and unattractive
double checks to make sure I’m not on the cybertruck article
Had someone been hyping you?
I prefer to call him Elmo Musk but Elon Muppet is pretty good too.
My favorite is Elongated Muskrat.
I prefer Melon Husk.
Eldolf Muskolini
This is the correct one. People make such a big stink out of his nazi salute while completely ignoring the Mussolini stank face he was making at the same time.
