Is that how those neo-Nazi sacks of shit dress for work?
“Why can’t we have some people from Norway, Sweden, or Denmark? We always take people from Somalia, places that are filthy, dirty, and disgusting”
– Donald Trump
Gee, is it because with these wackos “white = right?” No, that can’t be it at all.
Oh how I fantasize about seeing that guy’s head shot off.
I have, quite involuntarily, for the past year, having flashes before my eyes of a bomb going off right in the middle of Trump and his lapdogs holding a press conference.
To the NSA/CIA/FBI: no need, I’m already on the list
So they are secret police now what is that German word for that again, oh yeah Gestapo.
Gestapo is not a word but a name. The German word would be Geheimpolizei, Arschloch or Nazi
Gestapo is just an abbreviation for Geheime StaatsPolizei so it just means secret state police.
Damn, DeadDigger got told. Damn. Oooh. Snap. Shit, son. Damn.
THAT’S IT! IT’S OVER! HE’S NOT GETTING BACK UP!
There is no justification possible for doing that and then walking away. They know their actions are wrong and they about to get the shit kicked out of them.
If I read the article correctly, he was arrested the next day?
Would be much easier for them to do their job if they were actually trained and uniformed. The bar is low and they can’t even hit it.
Hey TSA guy. You back the fuck up. Stay in your lane.
Yeah talk about a bootlicker. This is the equivalent of a Walmart greeter telling me to back up from a situation like this.
Ice agents? Unless identified as law enforcement they’re just some assholes beating up an innocent man.
I’d start beating the shit out of them then claim in court there was no way for me to know who they were.
Yeah some weird hooded guy with questionable facial hair push down an older gentleman.
Charges ought to be pressed
That blonde person was also assaulting the man as well.
Good point
I shouldn’t give them a pass for no awful beard but you are correct
I’ve got bad news for you about American courts.
People keep saying, “Why aren’t the courts doing anything about ICE?”
They are.
Federal courts have ruled thousands of times that ICE unlawfully detained people. Reuters reported that judges have found ICE illegally jailed individuals more than 4,400 times. There are also multiple active lawsuits alleging excessive force, denial of medical care, abusive detention conditions, and unconstitutional arrests.
The problem isn’t that the courts aren’t ruling against ICE. The problem is that many of these rulings apply to individual cases or specific jurisdictions rather than creating nationwide policy. Critics argue that ICE has continued many of the same practices despite repeated adverse court decisions.
Those are two very different issues. One is whether the judiciary is checking ICE’s conduct. The other is whether ICE is consistently changing its behavior in response to those rulings.
So the US justice system is utterly toothless and ineffective and may as well essentially not exist.
The US Justice System was recently handicapped by banning Federal appeals court rulings from being applied nationwide. As a result, the compromised and corrupt Supreme Court is the one and only court in the entire nation that’s allowed to make a nationwide ruling.
This is a misleading characterization of what actually happened.
The Supreme Court did not ban federal appeals courts from issuing rulings that apply throughout their circuits, nor did it declare that only the Supreme Court can make decisions with broad legal effect.
What the Court addressed was the use of nationwide (universal) injunctions, where a single district judge blocks a federal policy across the entire country before the case has fully worked its way through the courts. Those are not the same thing as appellate court precedents.
The practical effect is that different circuits may reach different conclusions until the Supreme Court resolves the conflict. That’s how the federal judicial system has traditionally functioned. Appeals court decisions are still binding within their own circuits and continue to shape the law.
If you want to argue that limiting nationwide injunctions is a bad policy, that’s a legitimate position. But saying the decision “banned federal appeals court rulings from being applied nationwide” or made the Supreme Court “the only court allowed to make nationwide rulings” is inaccurate. It conflates two different legal concepts to support a broader political narrative.
This grossly mischaracterizes things.
The defining feature of the US Court system is how slow it is. We are talking about federal policies that are corrupt, racist, and unconstitutional.
The legal concepts of no injunctions and no legal power are effectively the same when discussing this issue because without nationwide injunctions, there is no mechanism to stop corrupt federal executive policy.
The Supreme Court declines to hear most cases, they cherry pick what they want to review to create the illusion of a fair system, and occasionally when there is a large clear conflict between circuits then it means the Supreme Court may decide to hear the case in a year while harm is ongoing.
You’re saying appeals courts are still binding on their own circuits, but we are talking about federal nationwide policy and executive branch that just ignores rulings unless there is enforcement.
The correct way for this to have proceeded previously was for a federal appellate court to rule it’s unconstitutional to randomly harass people on the street because it violates the 4th Amendment without probable cause, rule it’s an ongoing pattern and they keep ignoring the law and so a simple legal instruction is insufficient, and the instruct the federal marshals to seize ice infrastructure, their computers and phones in DC, and destroy them, and then to stay the order while it gets an emergency appeal, forcing the Supreme Court to rule on this.
But the Supreme Court doesn’t even have to rule on these issues now. The federal courts are powerless to do anything and the Supreme Court declines to hear it. Also, the Supreme Court held racism was a valid reason for detaining people, so ICE agents are fully allowed to randomly harass, detain, threaten and subdue people who are not white or not black, because that’s what these racist MAGA hicks want: they want a reduction in brown people, and they know they can’t easily harass and kill black people anymore, so they are just going after brown people instead.
Let’s just call it what it is: racist white people don’t like so many Latinos and other brown skinned people, they have noticed that white people are a smaller portion of the USA and white people are having fewer children, so they have enacted racist policies and elected a corrupt Supreme Court and selected a racist government in power to find ways to change this.
To pretend that the federal courts still have some sort of power in this situation is intellectually dishonest and mischaracterizes what is going on. In theory, decisions are binding on lower courts still. But what does it matter? Does a court matter if no one listens to it and then its power is taken away?
The racist MAGA hicks made a calculation that they could come into power, enact laws that would have previously been deemed illegal, pack the courts with conservatives, and start a campaign to reduce the brown population of the USA and also that liberals and brown people would not take up arms and try to physically stop them. And that calculation was right. Liberals are notoriously anti-gun, anti-gun ownership, and for extreme gun regulations; they are also the party of civility. So… MAGA was right.
What happens when things change and liberals come into power? Will there be hearings? A tribunal? The Supreme Court has sanctioned all of this under racist, intellectually dishonest language and so on what grounds can people be punished for evil? There are no grounds unless there’s a Constitutional amendment. It won’t happen. Even today, eminent domain is being used to seize land for data centers while black people never got their 40 acres or their mule. The horrible truth is MAGA got away with it and will get away with it. Liberals do not have the audacity and courage, nor the voting numbers, to do anything of substance.
What you’re saying isn’t necessarily wrong. You’re just piling a bunch of unrelated issues on top of what I said, gerrymandering, racism, politics, public policy, what the law should be, and so on.
None of that was the question. Those are separate discussions.
What I object to are blanket statements wrapped in propaganda. The original claim was grossly inaccurate. Federal appeals courts still make binding decisions within their own circuits. That’s how the federal judiciary has always functioned.
As I said, whether the Supreme Court made the right decision in the first place is an entirely different debate.
Honestly, I don’t understand what any of the points you raised have to do with what I was actually saying. My comment was narrowly focused on correcting a factual claim.
This is exactly what frustrates me about social media. People make wildly inaccurate statements based on ignorance, and they get repeated as if they’re true. That’s why I commented, to clarify the issue.
Some of what you said contains a kernel of truth, but it’s mixed with a lot of ideological framing that only muddies the discussion. It doesn’t address my point, and it makes an already complicated topic even more confusing.
We have the numbers (of humans), but not the voting power, because they gerrymandered and under represented it away from us.
But all SCOTUS has to do is simply decline to hear a case in order to prevent nationwide injunctions on clearly-illegal activities.
No, reread my comment.
As opposed to yours? In the UK? Seriously?
Yeah I’m not going to take any kind of back talk from a culture that invented cheese in a can.
Mocking America over spray cheese is like mocking Britain over jellied eels or mushy peas. Every country has novelty foods. Spray cheese is a niche convenience product, not the defining feature of American cuisine.
But sure, yes of course. we invented spray cheese.
And you’ll take all the back tall I give you since you just read every word I wrote.
I’m figuring that people in the UK are plenty aware that things are fucked.
Has anyone been acquitted for battering an ICE agent because they were unidentified attackers?
Specifically acquitted, no.
I couldn’t find a case where someone was acquitted specifically because they fought an unidentified or plainclothes ICE agent. If that had happened, it’d probably be a pretty high-profile precedent.
What I did find were multiple cases where charges were dropped, people were released, or courts ruled against ICE after video evidence contradicted the agents’ version of events or judges found the arrests or detention were unlawful.
So it’s not true that the courts are just rubber-stamping everything ICE does. They’re ruling against ICE all the time. The bigger issue is that many of those rulings are case-specific and don’t automatically change ICE’s practices nationwide.
Those are two very different questions.
I’m also interested in this second question.
Are courts actually doing anything to stop ICE, or just awarding damages with taxpayer money? Dropped charges won’t help if you’re in a Salvadoran death camp.
A lot of our constitutional protections still apply and are still being enforced. For example, when an immigrant is arrested, the government is now required to provide a probable cause hearing, something that was not consistently happening at the beginning. As far as I can tell, people are being released when a court determines that their arrest was unlawful or unsupported by probable cause.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a complete shit show. My point is that it isn’t simply lawlessness. There are still legal safeguards in place, and people are challenging abuses in court. That doesn’t change my view that what we’re doing is wrong.
Also nothing is awarded from tax payer money.
I’m with you buddy.
innocent man
A man who refuses to leave a country they are in illegally is not an innocent man, regardless of what personal views one might have
I do completely agree about the lack of uniform and ID… Shocking that more of these “agents” are not accidentally killed or seriously harmed
First, innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law.
Second, these are also CIVIL infractions and not CRIMINAL. This isn’t in the criminal code, ergo, these people are not actually criminals.l just for being in this country without a valid visa.
If you want to get into technicals sure but you can be legally deported by the state and barred from returning… Which is what’s happening here
Man in fake moustache steals a shoe after seeing hes being filmed.
Is this confirmed as ICE or have the common thugs latched onto it by now? Its only a matter of time.
Yeah how the fuck is this allowed? Masked people disappearing people off the streets? There should be way more stink about how they hide behind masks, that itself is so blatantly anti-democratic.
It also has a significant psychological effect on the “agents” in that they feel they can’t be held responsible and it also internally dehumanizes them because they are no longer [person] but [anonymous agent].
We saw what this leads to in the banana republic regimes that the US/CIA installed all over the world in the 60s, it always ended the same way, brutal repression and extrajudicial killings.
The ice guy is also wearing a fake mustache that’s peeling off. Hopfully he’s been identified by now and the neighbourhood he lives in knows he’s part of the gestapo.
Yeah wtf was that? And why not just grow a real one and shave it off before going back to your parents’ basement? Or is his testosterone so low, Hegseth won’t let him kill brown people?
I think it’s two women, maybe one is rocking a fake mustache to try to appear male at first glance.
These two barely read as ICE to me much less any other LEO, they must be scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point.
I think you’re right.
Land of the freeeeeee, home of the braaaaaaaave….
Fuck you America! FUcK YOU!!
Hi. American here.
Fuck You to.
What country are you from?
Also as an American I fully condemn this administration, ice and everything the orange man has done from the bottom of my soul!
You think we as a people like this? No! We don’t! We see what is happening! We understand. And we hate it!
Then accept the fuck yous you’re getting, get used to the animosity, and vote to fix your government. Your country’s horseshit spills over everywhere and we’re tired of having to step through the shit left behind by your administration.
No. I will not. Fuck you instead.
What country are you from?
we’re not special
we’ve treated numerous people in various nations the same way
not every Russian is pro pootin but plenty in the US cheer at deaths over the war with Ukraine and America’s current behavior affects many more directly than that conflict
best you get used to being treated like the heel, it’s only going to get worse
I promise you and you can mark my words but there is a reckoning coming.
You’ve been saying that for years. I’ve yet to see any pushback, now the rallies are a good start but they have to go on day after day after day after day after day until the situation improves, not one weekend every six months.
We’ll see in November when the Republicans will win the midterms because people vote R and the other part is too lazy to get off of their asses to vote. Is that the reckoning you’re talking about?
Ya. Ya, that’s one.
You as a people certainly do like this. ICE has strong supporters. This is why the world thinks your a bunch of cunts.
This is a false dichotomy.
You can support enforcing immigration law while still opposing how ICE conducts some of its operations. In fact, that’s the position many people take.
The strongest opposition to ICE comes from the political left, particularly progressive Democrats and immigration advocacy groups. Their criticism is generally directed at tactics like large-scale raids, detention practices, due process concerns, and the scope of the agency’s authority. Some want major reforms; a smaller number want the agency abolished altogether.
Meanwhile, Republicans and many conservatives overwhelmingly support ICE, arguing that it’s carrying out laws passed by Congress and is an essential part of immigration enforcement.
So pretending there’s some universal consensus either for or against ICE is just inaccurate. The agency is one of the most politically polarized institutions in the country. Whether someone supports it, wants it reformed, or wants it abolished depends largely on their political views, not on some objective, settled fact.
Wah wah wah citizen of country that has decades of war crimes under its belt gets upset when called out on 0.1% of it
And your country? No war crimes then? Squeaky clean?
Y’all never mention what country you’re from.
Irrelevant.
No. It is entirely relevant.
Your country has participated in military interventions, surveillance, controversial policing, treatment of Indigenous peoples, immigration detention, and plenty of other policies that deserve criticism. Yet somehow America is uniquely evil while your country gets a pass. That’s selective outrage.
So yes, I’m going to defend my country when someone from another country spends their time lecturing Americans as if theirs is fundamentally different. It isn’t. The differences are often a matter of degree, not kind.
You can criticize America all you want. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is the double standard. If you’re going to condemn the United States for something, then apply that exact same standard to your own country. If you don’t, then this isn’t about principles, it’s about your bias against America.
Don’t expect Americans to quietly nod along while foreigners endlessly dump on their country. We’re allowed to push back, we’re allowed to defend it, and we’re allowed to point out when the criticism comes from someone whose own country engages in many of the same practices they’re denouncing. If you don’t like being called out for that, the solution isn’t to tell Americans to stop defending their country, it’s to apply your standards consistently.
Wah wah wah whataboutism.
Nothing. What about anything? Your country is a shithole just like mine.
It’s full of deep-rooted nationalism, political cults that dictate policy, and extreme right-wing politicians pulling the same crap we have here in America.
You have extreme homelessness in your capital, predatory lending practices, and billionaires in the top 1% who don’t pay their fair share of taxes.
Your universal healthcare is pretty good, though. I can’t say anything bad about that.
Hating something isn’t the same thing as doing something about it.
Lowest quality rage bait I have seen yet
Good for you.
So the guy condemning America and saying fuck you to it is high quality rage bait?
Or you don’t like the fact that I’m simply defending the country that I love and live in?
Nah he’s just objectively correct, fuck America.
Also as an American I fully condemn this administration, ice and everything the orange man has done from the bottom of my soul!
Or you don’t like the fact that I’m simply defending the country that I love and live in?
You’re getting better at the ragebait tho
And like I said before fuck You and your country right back.
This is what I’m doing in my shit hole right now.
You said none of those but sure, fuck my country, nationalism is a blight upon this world
Have fun being mad at the beach while you can before the American gestapo takes you in for saying you hate Trump
Yeah, that’s not how any of that works, even here in the US.
Which is why you’re a self-loathing fucktard, and why I chose to engage with you. It was high time someone pushed back against your type.
You’re all high and mighty with the whole “fuck America” routine. Well, fuck you too, buddy.
You don’t know shit about America, Americans, our politics, or what it means to be an American. And it’s not even worth explaining it to you, because no matter what anyone says, you’re still going to think you’re better.
But deep down, you know full well how much worse the backwater human rights catastrophe you take your morning dump in really is.
Do more to stop it.
We actually are. If what you’re expecting is bloody revolution that’s not going to happen. And I understand from the outside looking in it seems like we’re doing nothing but that isn’t the case.
As an American once again, I condemn the actions of our current sitting president. Ice is a modern-day Gestapo.
Thanks for your condemnation. Thoughts and prayers it’ll all work out
I’m detecting a bit of sarcasm…
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I won’t quote your comment because you deleted it, and it wasn’t that bad.
But I’ll respond to it anyway.
The news you get from whatever state media you’re watching, or whatever you happen to see here on Lemmy or Reddit, is not representative of the country as a whole.
There is significant opposition to what is happening in my country right now. We do not like ICE as a whole. We do not consider it legitimate law enforcement. To many of us, it has become a modern-day Gestapo.
They are widely disliked across many communities in America. Many people view those employed by ICE as the bottom-of-the-barrel refuse of our society.
If you’d like to understand what is actually happening in our country, I suggest doing something more than toilet-bowl research.
I’m so confused. If they were legally detaining him, why are they in secret hoodies hiding their faces and running away
You’re not confused. If what they were doing was legal they wouldn’t have to hide their faces like a bunch of pussy-ass bitches
I think the idea comes from central and south American police who hide the identities of their police to prevent retaliation from organized crime, who are often very well funded and have no qualms about torturing and murdering random people to ensure the law remains powerless to stop their reign of fear and terror.
However, in this case it is to prevent the police themselves from answering to the courts, and to hide themselves from public scrutiny. Even if you are not breaking the law, America’s legal system is brutal and destructive, and they know that and don’t want to face it themselves.
The idea of hiding ones self with a hood or wearing a disguise it is quite ancient… It is not clear why you are trying to connect this concept with central and south america, I get your point, but it doesn’t require such a complex comparison. The purpose here is quite simple.
When encountered everyone should swarm these anonymous ICE losers, hold them down, demask, photograph and release them.
In an ideal world they’d get the Hans Landa treatment.
Is one of them sporting a handlebar Hitler 'stache?
BEAT THE LIFE OUT OF ICE WITH CONCRETE BRICKS
Fuck the airport guy too. He’s complicit.
Yeah they made him look like the worlds biggest simp as he’s still trying to block the people recording without realizing that these two “agents” have already booked it out of there right behind his back.
Imagine they were treated as the thugs they are…
Can I see your ID and warrant please?
You don’t wanna show?
Then get off that person!
You don’t?
Here’s your kick to the face then!edit: remember to cover your face and head like those thugs do before you kick their faces. Make sure they can’t come after you, so don’t hold back.
While you’d be right to defend an attacked person, you wouldn’t want to end up in this joke of “justice system”.It’s the unhinged posts like this one that really make you raise an eyebrow around here
Edit: zzzzz… ;)
First let me say I hate this place for the overflow of extremism. The stupid kind of extremism. However, kicking a nazi in the face was not even considered controversial just 2 generations ago. Just saying.
Too many people just don’t know about or don’t want to understand the paradox of tolerance like you do.
I wish it was different.Post that on Reddit and you’ll be banned for inciting extremist violence.
That tells more about Reddit than the comment.
Because Reddit is ran by a Nazi.
Posts like that one will get you arrested in the country we are talking about. Just saying 👌
Why is it unhinged to consider protecting your neighbours from illegal violence with illegal violence?
Posts like that one will get you arrested in the country we are talking about. To answer your question thought it’s because it’s illegal.
So say it is illegal. Unhinged would be working for the ones doing the illegal violence in the first place.
But also - It is always moral to protect your neighbours against fascist violence. And morality trumps legality any day (if you have a moral compass beyond just ‘following orders’)
If the illegal but moral action ends with you shot against the wall that’s pretty sad I’m sure there are moral and legal options.
And hey, if you really want do do the illegal but moral action, posting about your intention here is fucking unhinged because you won’t get to?
You assume you will be shot because you fear these people.
You are the one assuming. I live in a different country haha. I’m not “scared” for anyone either I just see unhinged posts that will have you put in jail with no benefit to anyone so I say so.
I bet your breath stinks of boot polish
Boot polish and butt paste.
Posts like that one will get you arrested in the country we are talking about. My breath smells like roses compared to yours.
I lick no boot.
I’m not the one afraid of making internet comments. Be brave.
I’d rather be able to vote haha
Your country sounds worse than mine and mines falling to fascism.
Kick a Nazi in the head while wearing steel toes. Kick anyone who tries to get you to stop, too.
Haha, if you say so!
Enabling ICE thugs pretty much looks like boot licking though.
To be clear: there’s no indication this wasn’t an ambush by thugs and yet you defend the ambush and criticise defending the attacked person.
Interesting that the shown aggression doesn’t get the perpetrators arrested, isn’t it?
But afair they can kill people in cold blood and don’t even get prosecuted in most cases.This is what you’re defending. Disgusting!
Do you see me defending? Get outta here lol.
You called my rational suggestion unhinged, so it implies you considered my suggestion wrong and hence what they did right.
Please explain how it’s different in your mind.What country are you posting from my unhinged friend?
They could show an ID and a warrant and it would end differently.
But it was convenient to ignore that part, wasn’t it?People like you enable ICE.
Your behaviour is disgusting.
If people are dumb enough to vacation in a Fascist country, fuck them. There wasn’t much tourism in Nazi Germany but people were smarter then.
I’m American and I went to universal studios this past weekend and was shocked by the amount of foreign tourists. It’s wild to me they don’t know or don’t care about the risk to themselves but are also willing to spend their tourist dollars here, essentially condoning the current government. There’s lots of legitimate reasons to be in the US but tourism isn’t one of them even for the world cup, that said there’s no excusing the actual perpetrators here, which aren’t the tourists. Fuck ICE not the people here for whatever reason.
There was plenty of tourism in Nazi Germany. They held an Olympics.
Funny how that’s a recurring theme of budding fascist regimes to hold massive public spectacles like that.
In both cases, the bid to host those events was submitted before the fascist was in office, but the fascist in office sure as hell took the opportunity to use it as their own advertising campaign.
Ahh, victim blaming. People shouldn’t come here because it’s dangerous but I’m going to feel sorry when bad things happen. As well, the Nazis had a lot of tourism, in fact they hosted the Olympics before the war there and used it to spread propaganda. Just tourism dropped because of the war, not because of the Nazis.
I kind of agree. I wouldn’t go to the US for now, but they are helding the world cup and some people have to go work. I think the amount of people that went is crazy.
I was disheartened by it. A LOT of European folks are aggravatedly clueless, and a whole bunch of them are ripe for the brown shirted plucking.
You do understand that it is not always that simple?
I’m not vacationing in Iran or Palestine this summer. Nor the USA until they decide to fix the country.
You understand that not every visit is a vacay?
