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    For everyone shitting on the retrieval: retrieving the bodies is how we identify the cause of death, helping prevent this happening to other people.

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      How about not diving into caves? That seems like an even better way to prevent this from happening again.

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        In this case we know the exact cause of death, diving into the fucking cave. Maybe we send an ROV rather than risking 3 lives. If they didn’t have the funding to send one then maybe don’t use the royal yacht to risk your and 2 other lives, including a 3rd on the rescue.

        What a selfish way to die.

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        While true, sometimes it’s important. This dive was

        an official scientific mission to monitor marine environments and study the effects of the climate crisis on tropical biodiversity

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    Italy’s foreign minister, Antonio Tajani, said the Italian government “will do everything possible to recover the bodies of our compatriots”.

    Diving at 50 metres exceeds the maximum depth recommended for recreational divers by most scuba certifying agencies. Depths beyond 40 metres are considered technical diving, which requires specialised training and equipment. The recreational diving limit in the Maldives is 30 metres (98ft), and experts have warned that cave divers could easily become disoriented or lost, particularly when sediment clouds reduce visibility.

    The Italians were passengers onboard a 36-metre luxury yacht the Duke of York, whose operating licence was suspended “indefinitely” on Saturday by the Maldivian ministry of tourism and civil aviation, pending the outcome of an investigation. A website link related to the ship was not working on Saturday and the owner of the yacht did not immediately respond to a request for comment by the Guardian.

    Shareef said investigators were looking into why the group went below the officially permitted depth of 30 metres.

    Bodies aren’t worth risking lives 🤪 Antonio is such a tool!

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    Spelunkers of all sorts have chosen their graves. They should leave them there like they do MtEverest climbers.

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      But it takes too long to walk down, corpse-sledding is a human right

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      I would say this might make people less likely to dive there, but i think part of why they do this is because the body and gear is gonna kill the next idiot with a death wish who does this.

      What these thrill seeking morons do has a massive death rate and a massive ancillary death rate of the people who have to then collect their stupid corpses.

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        I’m not sure if this one was thrill seeking. The first team sounds like they were marine biologists either working or training

        The deceased have been identified as Monica Montefalcone, an associate ecology professor at the University of Genoa, her daughter Giorgia Sommacal, marine biologist Federico Gualtieri, researcher Muriel Oddenino and diving instructor Gianluca Benedetti, whose body has been recovered.

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            They’d probably hired it for the trip. Marine biologist divers need space for their gear, ideally a shower, and space to store stuff like specimens. And it looks like this one has enough space to also give them room to do regular paper and laptop work.

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          That’s the amazing part about someone stupid enough to put themselves and others in this position. You’d think the researchers weren’t thrill seeking, but they willingly sought the opportunity to do this research because you get to do it at the same time as your crazy dangerous hobby. Maybe you’ve mixed them to the degree where your research depends on putting yourself and others in danger. I would feel the same way if they were doing climate research while diving out of planes in squirrel suits, but at least no one is risking death to clean them off the side of a bridge when they die.

          This idiot researcher dove 20 meters deeper than they should have been in the region they were at, go into an extremely deep and dangerous cave to do research, took her daughter and some other moron with a death wish. They all die, then they take a decorated rescue diver with them who’s just trying to fish out corpses for the husband/father they left behind, and so it doesn’t kill the next idiot to go down there.

          The worst part about cave diving at this level is how many often these people (missing parts of their brain like Alex Honold), take the rescue divers with them. The rescue divers being members of the same community most of the time, showing you just how fucking dangerous this bullshit is.

          But I bet the husband feels great they were doing important work! That’ll be part of the eulogy and everything.

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    “I’m willing to keep killing people until we retrieve all the corpses!”

    Rich ass-corpses are worth more than poor-ass people

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    There’s nothing that scares me more than drowning in an enclosed space. Just terrifying.
    Also I wouldn’t waste any more lives trying to recover their bodies.