Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.

Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.

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    If that happens 3 OR 4 HUNDRED MORE TIMES they MIGHT start to MAYBE Reconsider voting for Republicans!

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      That’s where we should be different. We should want them to see the error of their ways, but we shouldn’t want anybody to struggle to get food on the plate.

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        We should want them to see the error of their ways

        a significant number of them are incapable.

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        They had plenty of time for that BEFORE causing all of the damage that they did. No forgetting, no forgiveness.

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        I did. I still do want everyone to eat, and that’s why I vote blue. But if they want red and the misfortunes they bring, that’s on them. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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    Trump could do what the Democrats never could, put a Democrat from Texas in the US Senate.

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    Don’t you think it’s to late now? He already lost his job. He’s not gana find another with the person he voted for 3 times.

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      None of the 70.98% of the Springfield electorate deserve to have shit. They better pull themselves up by their bootstraps and pray trump doesn’t get rid of all the remaining social programs he said he would get rid of. Racist liars, going along with the lie that Hatians were eating dogs and cats.

      All the other red counties should take note because this will be you soon. I certainly won’t help you but I’m sure the centrists and independent people who want to hold hands and sing will be glad to show you unconditional kindness and help you out.

      Not me though. You need to repent because Jesus is the only one gonna put up with your lowlife soul.

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      And he’ll vote for the next GOP candidate telling himself he’s not voting for Trump again because his voters are too dumb to connect the dots.

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    “This year’s election is a test for the working-class coalition that lifted Trump into the White House and gave majorities to Republicans in the House and Senate” - the under-educated coalition? This is the only reason working class would vote Republican. Oh, hold on, bigotry too.

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      Misinformation too.

      Remember, none of us, even those of us on Lemmy, have ingested the same news and headlines.

      Sure, there are shared overlaps in forums like these or among those who, maybe, only listen to Tucker Carlson and branch out from there for their worldly info.

      Never assume other people know what you know. Let go of the belief that all the egregious shit you’ve read on Trump has been read by everyone, because it hasn’t.

      There is no central news. No shared headlines.

      Just TikTok, social media & its algorithms, and whatever podcasts/YouTube/NewsChannel we sporadically choose to consume on a level that most often resembles TikTok consumption.

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        We need an easily-digestible highlight reel of Trump crimes to show people.

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          It’s existed since he first announced running in like 2015. They do know about it and they don’t care.

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            Jordan Klepper has skits from the 2016 run through the attack on the capital where he would mingle with MAGAs when they gathered, because he looked like them. (Not much on the violent coup attempt, his fear in that crowd was evident, he grabbed footage at the edge then noped out).

            He did get past the evade replies regarding bad things Trump was doing, occasionally, to the true reply which was exactly as you said: I don’t care.

            We laugh at the evade replies because they’re so ridiculous, but the “I don’t care” is the real answer.

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              I don’t care

              In many cases, “I don’t care” really means “I don’t believe what you’re telling me but I don’t have the ability to refute it.”

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              Exactly. We are so far beyond “do they know.” Imo these people should be culpable too to some degree. And I do have loved ones in the cult, which I’m sure we all do because it’s so massive.

              We’re never going to get through this kind of shit if we keep giving fascists the benefit of the doubt. They will not give it to you and they applaud violence on innocent people, hate, inequality, etc.

              There is no doubt on their side, why are we not listening to who these people are saying they are? They literally gloat about it. That’s what those hats became, very quickly. It’s a brag that they can be openly hateful now. Fuck that.

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                A lot of discussion/argument begins and ends with news source incompatibility so we don’t get down to “I don’t care” often.

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      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B. Johnson

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        I always think LBJ is the best anti-hero we’ve seen. He’s crass and rambunctious but willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good. While most politicians are afraid to alienate a huge portion of voters, he’s willing to alienate the Southern voters to legislate the Civil Rights Act because who cares about racists.

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          willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good

          I recommend reading Caro’s biography series on LBJ. I think you would find this statement to be not accurate. He was willing to alienate (white) Southern voters because his one overarching goal in life was to be (and to stay) President and (white) Southern voters were never numerous enough to ensure that. To his credit, LBJ seemed to be very much not racist personally, but fixing racism was never a goal of his.

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    I see a lot of hatred towards these people, it makes sense given what community we are in.

    Personally, I don’t want them to suffer, but I do find humor in it, just as my coping mechanism.

    I would be salty and get them to admit they were wrong, taking satisfaction in a big I told you so is much better than wanting more suffering even if they deserve it.

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        Oh they do, and that’s why I wouldn’t see them suffering as injustice, but I don’t wish it to happen.

        The way I see it, if I’m wishing stuff, I rather them have an existential crisis about it and come to the conclusion that they’ve been wrong all their life and beg for forgiveness.

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    I see a lot of people like this being treated with total contempt, which is your right, but a few things to keep in mind.

    1. Please remember 70% of voters are not Democrat. Democrats are 30% of voters, Republicans 30% of voters, and Independents are 40% of voters. Insulting and celebrating the hardships and deaths of those who don’t agree with you is a very bad look, and won’t convince anyone that your minority party (Democrats) is the cure.

    2. Very few people are actually informed. Their entire waking life can be their job and children. Spare time is spent in non-political activities, like watching a goofy show. Many people are juggling multiple jobs and don’t have a lot of spare time to research politics or history. Maybe zero time. So they go with their gut. (this is often wrong, but remains true). Make it easy for their gut.

    3. Keep in mind that you require independent voters to win every federal election. Would you like to win an election? Then you better get some Independent votes. Insulting and humiliating others does absolutely nothing for you. You could be totally right, your anger might be well founded, but it doesn’t help you.

    4. Do you agree that there are a significant amount of stupid people? These stupid people don’t like being called stupid, and take this all very seriously. You want the votes of stupid people. Would you like stupid people to vote for your party? Spending your days mocking and insulting anonymously can be a lot of fun, but it’s no way to WIN.

    This is a big election upcoming, go out and vote! … and if you’re up for it, maybe try to be kind to a voter or three. It can only help your cause. Contempt hurts you.

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      I do not care about centrists, whether they want to say they are independents or whatever they want to go with. If the lack of fucks I have for them sends them to the right, they were gonba vote that way all along.

      A lot of people voted for Trump knowing what he would do, but they didn’t think it would affect them. And if trump would “fix” things for them, they will go back to being happy pigs while watching others suffer. This was always about owning the libs, anyway.

      They had a taste of Trump 1.0 and they still voted for Trump 2.0. That second or third time wasn’t a mistake. They knew what he was and they said they were ok with a moronic rapist pedo bully with narcissistic tendencies to having the nuke codes. People like this are not good people and I’m not going to sugarcoat it for them. They will vote red no matter how much you lick their boots, so fuck that.

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        It’s okay for you to not care about them.

        But, don’t be surprised when they don’t care about you.

        First, you must learn that centrists and independents are two different things. Independent is an even bigger tent than the D party, it includes centrists within, but includes everybody else, too, like socialists. They’re not centrists, don’t be ridiculous.

        Next, you must learn that If you don’t serve the interests of that 40% of voters, you will lose. Their priority one interest is one that we all share, all 100% of us have this exact same interest. Money. We all need money in the USA. It’s our common denominator.

        You’re outnumbered and doing the rookie thing, and gotta up those numbers. Hostility is not your friend. Be honest… if you want to sell something, you don’t insult the buyer, do you? You don’t have to sugarcoat or lick their boots or anything.

        Do the math. If the 40% of independents were centrists or red voters, you’d never win any election, ever. But you do win elections, because they’re not centrists or red voters. Come on now

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    My favorite part is how he was the only one who could prevent new wars. And stop existing wars. It’s pretty cool how now there’s no more wars. Amerika is finely great again.

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      The President of Peace, winner of the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. That’s serious, super serious.

      He’s brought peace to the middle east at least a couple dozen times.