God why do LLM comics look so fucking uncanny
Because perspectives get misaligned and there’s no continuation.
There’s a whole desk with books that just disappears. The poster in the background can’t decide what it wants to say. Nor can it decide on its size. The shelves in front of it can’t decide what they contain or where they are positioned And the wall it’s on can’t decide how it’s angled relative to the room.
The “NO AI” dude is taking a giant step forward with his left foot behind a garbage bin for some reason.
In the third panel the doctor is missing a ring-finger while his thumbs have grown 3-4cm
Just to name a few.
The stupid texts all over the place that are made to sound deep yet are somehow devoid of any useful information make me irrationally angry. You can really tell these models have been optimized to generate powerpoint presentations for creatively bankrupt low-level managers
LLMs have discovered deepities. It’s so nauseating.
My favourite is the googly-ass binocular microscope. Maybe two scientists are supposed to use it at the same time like 50s teens sharing a milkshake.
But even when they get everything right they just trigger alarm bells in my head, like the way their faces and eyes look freaks me out.
The “uncanny” part I think isn’t because it’s done badly, it’s because it’s done well - but not in any of the ways you’d get from a human. By the time a human artist has learned to get that good at shading, colouring, line work, human figures, posing etc, they’ll have also learned about composition and perspective and good storytelling and when to not pointlessly overload the background with weird shit.
Yeah that scans, its like when it’s taken as a whole it looks off. The people and poses look like they’re copied from this platonic stamp somewhere rather than drawn.
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One of the infuriating things I’ve seen in the industry in a bunch of cases. Folks working on valuable things getting pulled away to work on chatbot. Not even to try to make the chatbot game changing, just to make it more popular.
Also, there was pressure in the industry to “be green”; to be efficient. That is all so far out the window now too…
I hate how LLMs have co-opted the term AI. Google was using AI for this just a different and I’d argue better technique. It’s super frustrating to see other AI approaches be totally discarded just for everyone to put all their chips on LLMs being the ‘right’ approach
Google knows AI will not cure diseases. They have services for pharma for two years now and no one is finding it useful, despite the cost.
That being said, I wouldn’t have complained if they’d left that AI genome project running, just in case
They’ve said something to that effect a long time ago. Back when they were first getting into the self diving car game they said that more people die of car accidents than cancer and it was more important to them. They’re number driven, if the numbers say they’ll make more money somewhere else, that’s where they’ll go.
Making money is not mutually exclusive. Google is already bloated with cash (it pays dividends). The are able to invest in both self driving cars and cancer cures at the same time.
generative ai? I dont think so.
Most research is done using PREDICTIVE ai not generative ai.
And no one’s against machine learning, but fruit romance videos do not cancel out surveillance, inequality, and destruction of nature.
fruit romance videos do not cancel out surveillance, inequality, and destruction of nature
What?? Of course they do, I saw it in an AI-generated video!
Their plagiarism machine can’t even consistently render that guy’s desk from panel to panel. Somebody’s going to trust it to make drugs?
Ha and the posters and bottles. Maybe AI could be useful for generating spot the difference books.
But a bit boring when you can just circle the entire panel and get it right, no?
Have you considered that the scientist maybe works for a good organization that can afford him 4 desks that look different?
Ah, yes. Perhaps they are mounted on some manner of conveyor belt.
A rotating floor plate would probably be more efficient
Use ai to generate a build plan and BOM
I think you left an “O” off of your bill of materials, there.
There we go, some healthy heavy craziness to keep the crazy going, a crazy train if you will
Not sure why the organization would allow medicine-smashing man onto the premises though.
he’s the founder
I’m curious what purpose that clearly custom microscope has
That’s the least realistic part of this
The kind of crappy art generation is vastly different than the types of AI used in drug discovery.
In fact drug discovery is a pretty good problem for AI to help solving.
They aren’t using chatbots to do it. It’s almost a completely different technology.
Exactly. Things in advanced analtyics or ML or whatever are totally smeared over with a broad brush, they give everything the landlord special.
It more or less is a different technology in the same way a arquebus and an M16 are different technologies, same principles different execution.
Yes, but the problem is that the techbros pushing crappy AI and text generation are doing so while disingenuously implying (or often outright stating) that their product is eventually going to revolutionize the world by also magically curing cancer or whatever the hell else if we provide them just one more datacenter, bro. Except that it categorically cannot.
Specialized machine learning tools are specialized tools for the specific clearly defined use cases for which they are designed and intended (edit). The commercial LLM and diffusion image generators, meanwhile, serve no beneficial purpose whatsoever other than burning electricity, spreading lies, and making people dumber.
I mean this is where we have to disagree, I think there are loads of benefits from the technologies. But capitalism is the wrong motivator… “How can we make money out of this?” don’t make me puke. It should be free for all, to cure cancer, to decipher ancient languages, to model the climate etc.
How the fuck is an ass kissing chatbot going to help you model the climate?
Not everything is a fucking chat bot.
“AI”, the way everybody uses it today, means “ass-kissing chatbot”. That’s what Jensen means, that’s what Satya means, that’s what the investors think it means, that’s what the people reading scripts on the news mean. Oh, excuse me, I meant to say “super intelligence”.
We have neural nets, machine learning, adaptive systems, automated translation, context completion, all kinds of terms for the stuff that actually does useful stuff.
That’s not what the trillion dollars is getting spent on
There’s no point having a discussions with people like me that are intractable when it comes to the technology and are acutely aware of the USA capitalist ruling class and the atrocities they commit and enable, with people that are unable and unwilling to understand what a model is, and are approaching computer science like a luddite.
The USA capitalists are having you lick their boots when you think that “AI” = ChatGPT. You’re not ‘chatting’ with anything. You, me, and many others, are constantly falling for their marketing shit all the time. Don’t bite!
If you can differentiate between a stack of PS3s that made a ‘super computer’ to try to predict what the weather will be tomorrow and the USA building a datacenter, poisoning your water, denying you electricity, stealing your capital, surveiling you, and influencing your decisions, then we can definitely sit together and use our brains to dismantle the infrastructure of oppression. Your enemy is not ‘conversation simulators’, its capitalism.
So where’s that miraculous cure, then?
Dude, didn’t you read that comic? The anti-AI psycho destroyed it. The vibe scientist probably tried to type in the same prompt again but this time the answer was in Mandarin.
You’re so right, HIV infected plasma wasn’t the cure for cancer. Maybe we should step back and look at this from a new perspective. I will generate a new vaccine for you and find a new batch of test subjects.
It sure is weird how AI boosters have made a hobby out of deepthroating strawmen & pure speculation.
The latest trend on my LinkedIn is people comparing AI water usage favourably to almond farming.
You know, the thing that famously uses a scandalous amount of water and which also has environmental groups campaigning against it…
They’re constantly being told they’re correct about everything, what do you expect?
Why are AI simps so fucking weird?
I am pretty sure the “AI” systems making medicine aren’t the same as generative AI.
They are not. They are purpose built systems that leverage specialized knowledge.
The problem is you have people asking LLMs to find a cure for cancer and have no way of knowing if the output is any good. Then those people start emailing everyone saying they cured cancer.
Random dipshits asking ChatGPT, at best, would just give you a story about a cure for cancer. It wouldn’t actually be able to cure cancer even under the best circumstances since it was made to be a chatbot, not a medical research tool. It’s like going to Burger King and asking for a pizza. 🤣
I don’t have experience with cancer but my email has seen an increase in people claiming to have used an LLM to design a perpetual motion machine
“Chat GPT said if I put two repelling magnets onto a skateboard, the force of the magnets repelling each other will move the skateboard forward!”
Not knowledge… Data. X, Y is one Cartesian point composed of two parameters but they can process billions of parameters. It’s not knowledge. Knowledge assumes that a thing has intelligence and realizes what the data means. Not just regurgitating the data but actually extracting the meaning.
I was referring to the people that build the MLMs not the MLM themselves.
There are actually some, but you wouldn’t recognize it as generative AI.
Math is a structured language for conveying relationships, a mechanically verifiable system, and a system for verifying those statements.
This doesn’t work for all math, but a lot of it.So you can train an LLM on math the symbolic language and then mechanically check the output for validity and immediately feed the lesson back in.
Mechanically shitting out math and then throwing away the junk has been a thing for a while without llms. What they bring is a system for picking the next step for the derivation that’s less likely to end up being junk.
So if you can model it with math you can use that model to mimic the pattern of symbols that’s often valid.It’s moderately more efficient at searching infinity for value than other systems.
So it doesn’t give you a medicine, it gives you the mathematical description of a molecule, with an abstract proof that under certain models it might have utility and be physically possible, which another program can feed into simulations to see if it’s something worth looking at.
It’s not just
What an absolute triumph of human intellect! By asking for a pharmacological cure for cancer, you have single-handedly pushed the boundaries of computational oncology, and it is a breathtaking honor to co-create history with you today!
It’s viewed as having potential by people who aren’t delirious largely because of the “mechanically verifiable” part.
Wait, these things still can’t draw hands?
Or proper perspective
Or generate a face that is not a Ghibli cartoon. The faces are always the same.
I’ve given up. I know this because I didn’t even notice until I saw this and went back to check.
That one frame… It was like the AI is going “humans have 10 fingers” then drew three on one hand, and crammed the rest onto the other.
The “AI” we are obsessing over and building entire power plants around… Yeah, that stuff sucks, a lot. When we get to real AI, aka AGI, then it’ll quickly turn into sky net and we’re all fucked.
They won’t stop until that happens, and nobody has the means to stop them… Anyone who has the means to stop them, won’t.
Start digging your Doomsday bunkers now folks.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the sheer stupidity of this comic’s impression of what research is like? Middle-aged white guy wearing glasses and a lab coat in front of a computer screen looking at news (about generative (!) AI no less) and exclaiming what amounts to “Eureka”. And one panel later he has the fucking cure in a syringe right in his hand, ready to pop into somebody’s blood stream. The visual representation of what generative AI fanboys think research is versus what it actually is is a Venn diagram with no overlap.
but this is how Hollywood thinks science works. Major plague kills millions, we find one monkey and in two days everyone is fine. Usually some type of glowing green or blue liquid.
The cure for cancer is Mountain Dew Voltage, y’all.
Totally, and then there’s a liquid nitrogen container preserving the single existing vial, which is so sensitive and fragile you have to pull it out of the container reeeeeal slow.
I just wanna say the vaccines developed for COVID-19 were kind of as close to sci-fi as we will ever get. Global pandemic, brilliant minds develop a cool way to defend us from it, roll out the most audacious testing on a higher amount of people in record time, transport the vials in liquid nitrogen fridges because they were temperature sensitive. It was pretty darn close to all the stuff mentioned in this thread which is both kind of hilarious and cool at the same time.
and every lab tech is a klutz who drops the vials. WHY USE GLASS VIALS.
And unfortunately, due to the cognitive offloading to AI destroying education this will likely get worse
Also presumably it wouldn’t matter if the guy smashed one syringe of the stuff once it’s been researched. If it gets to that point then the formula must be saved all over the place.
What’s your sample size bud? What’s the p-value of those results? Where’s your ethics board approval?!
Yeah it’s always so generic to the point of being annoying
It’s illustrating a point, and that point is not how research works. It conveys the point it wants to make very well, even though it’s wrong.
wouldn’t need to use genai to fake a cancer cure if conservatives didn’t gut research for cancer
The company I work for is still going strong, and I feel we’ll have a very tangible cure soon. The only problem I think there is a very small chance any insurance company would let the poors get their hands on it
I feel we’ll have a very tangible cure soon
For cancer in general or for a specific kind of cancer?
Probably a specific one; cancers are all different from eachothers especially when on different organs
Yeah it will tackle the most prevalent cancers, like breast and prostate cancer, but be unable to be developed for cancers like brain cancer, since it is a radio pharmaceutical.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11103494/
You can read more about it here. It is making very good progress, multiple companies are starting to make manufactured levels of the drug, and results are very good. Again, I highly doubt poor people will have access to it.
That’s still impressive to be able to hit both breast and prostate cancers. And yeah, brain cancers are a whole nightmare for treatment
I know a Doctor at an Nvidia backed biotech company that is working with generative AI to find new drug formulations to test. Allegedly they have some promising ones that are in testing. The thing is even if they are successful and the models generate a viable drug this shit won’t be free. They’ve sunk so many billions into processing power they’ll justify charging $100k a dose to pay back their Nvidia loan.
or they can use it and declare bankruptcy then make it open source how are they going to monetize it when he made it intentionally open source the elites epstein class can sue him but he declares bankruptcy thus saving humanity trillions in cost from the epstein class.
and unicorns are real.
Medical fields have been using machine learning successfully for years before llms caught the shit sniffing attention of vc’s. Current levels of llms are like tar pits for your brain and take either hate or intellect or both to get away from.
People that advocate for llms as ai are malicious actors and literally the worst kinds of people. It’s so obvious, I don’t know why more of society can’t see right through this shit. Like, I do know, but it’s still frustrating to have to live in this wasteland of society right now, knowing how much time and energy and life force, essentially, is gonna be wasted because of whatever this fucking political cold war we’re in.
Yep, folding@home and WCG have been doing this for a long time with actual measurable breakthroughs.
Pedant here, cancer is not a disease, it’s an umbrella term covering many types of diseases related to unregulated cell growth. There never will be a “cure for cancer”. There will never be a “cure for breast cancer” because there are different origins of breast cancer. We may find a cure for specific types of cancers, and each of those should be celebrated.
“I did it”
“I finally did it!”
“I found the cure for viruses!”
Lava cures viruses
What was the line from XKCD? “When you read a study finds something is x effective at killing cancer cells in a petri dish, remember: so does a hand gun.”
Lava > viruses > people > bears > dogs > hot dogs
And not to be too hope pilled, but that’s where we are in cancer research. Researchers are essentially in the process of building an armory of silver bullets. Sure most cancers don’t have cures yet, but some of them do, and while it may not sound as flashy or impressive to say that you’ve developed a cure for a specific form of a specific cancer in people who have compatible genes, it does save lives.
Oh yeah that’s not hope pilled at all. It’s important to have hope in life. A life without hope is a sad, lonely life. The FDA just approved the first ever personalized mRNA vaccine for a skin cancer, I think. It’s super cool and 20 years ago would have been considered science fiction.
We don’t need vibe coded software or AI generated “art” and slop social media content to get to curing various forms of cancer or other diseases. No one would be upset about such a use. Instead it is being used to enable laziness, reduce our cognitive abilities, and further harm our environment while trying to make a quick buck and failing at that too.
Also AI is a general term and the models used in cancer research/detection are farther from generative LLMs than autocorrect.
