It’s a good thing to have more green lights, because emissions drop a lot. A few cities in my area spent a lot of money in the 1970s to do that. But the problem is that they sync at 30, and also at higher speeds.
Fix road design so that people don’t speed. A six lane stroad signals a limit considerably higher than 40kph, no matter what you do with the stoplights.
It does. When the risk isn’t a fine but hitting a curb or raised midsection or wooden pole, people actually slow down. I’m pretty sure I have seen studies on that, but can’t look them up now.
Our 1/4 mile long road has a slight kink and telephone pole close to the road (and no sidewalks because our town hates poor people). Since Google maps shows it saving 1 minute over taking the adjacent main road, everyone bombs down it during rush hours and especially lunch time.
At least 1 mirror per week is rapidly disassembled by that pole. I’m collecting parts so that I can bring a bucket of it to the town meeting demanding they install a summer speed bump at the very least.
Seriously, both towns on either side have sidewalks, and crosswalks across the main roads. We only moved here to care for elderly parents and plan to leave as soon as the situation changes.
i can point to specific roads in local cities that they probably used for those studies. been that way for a few decades now out in sacramento specifically. they shifted the lanes a little bit, narrowed the road, and moved the curb/sidewalk/crosswalk such that (1) there’s less road to cross and (2) traffic slows down because the road naturally slows down before the crosswalk. also added botts dotts to give a little rumble as you cross the crosswalk in your car.
Noted car enthusiast NotJustBikes disagrees. And so do several generations of traffic engineers, not just in the Netherlands. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc
Traffic calming doesn’t stop speeding, but it stops ubiquitous speeding - the situation where the speed limit is 50 but traffic flows at 70.
i don’t think i’ve even taken my foot off the brake on that stretch.
also, note to any y’all who want to visit, it’s a gorgeous walk down the street but you do not want to drive it. this photo does not do the grade justice
It’s a good thing to have more green lights, because emissions drop a lot. A few cities in my area spent a lot of money in the 1970s to do that. But the problem is that they sync at 30, and also at higher speeds.
Fix road design so that people don’t speed. A six lane stroad signals a limit considerably higher than 40kph, no matter what you do with the stoplights.
Road design doesn’t really stop people from speeding.
It does. When the risk isn’t a fine but hitting a curb or raised midsection or wooden pole, people actually slow down. I’m pretty sure I have seen studies on that, but can’t look them up now.
Also roundabouts. Can’t go 40mph through one of those.
Maybe you can’t.
How did you get a video of me?!
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i paid you tacos. that landing was worse than i thought
Our 1/4 mile long road has a slight kink and telephone pole close to the road (and no sidewalks because our town hates poor people). Since Google maps shows it saving 1 minute over taking the adjacent main road, everyone bombs down it during rush hours and especially lunch time.
At least 1 mirror per week is rapidly disassembled by that pole. I’m collecting parts so that I can bring a bucket of it to the town meeting demanding they install a summer speed bump at the very least.
Seriously, both towns on either side have sidewalks, and crosswalks across the main roads. We only moved here to care for elderly parents and plan to leave as soon as the situation changes.
i can point to specific roads in local cities that they probably used for those studies. been that way for a few decades now out in sacramento specifically. they shifted the lanes a little bit, narrowed the road, and moved the curb/sidewalk/crosswalk such that (1) there’s less road to cross and (2) traffic slows down because the road naturally slows down before the crosswalk. also added botts dotts to give a little rumble as you cross the crosswalk in your car.
Noted car enthusiast NotJustBikes disagrees. And so do several generations of traffic engineers, not just in the Netherlands. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc
Traffic calming doesn’t stop speeding, but it stops ubiquitous speeding - the situation where the speed limit is 50 but traffic flows at 70.
this is Lombard Street in San Francisco
you think anyone’s ever broken the 25mph speed limit on that section of street?
Yes, if their breaks failed … briefly.
there’d be a car in front of them to brake their descent
i don’t think i’ve even taken my foot off the brake on that stretch.
also, note to any y’all who want to visit, it’s a gorgeous walk down the street but you do not want to drive it. this photo does not do the grade justice
i drove it once just to say i did. mercifully downhill and one-way at least.
Tell me you’ve never played Cruisin’ USA without telling me
The data I’ve seen says it does.
If you design a road to be safe to drive 60, people will drive 60 even if you post a limit of 35.
The exceptions are places where there is always a traffic cop waiting to ticket you.
Do you have anything to back that up?
Projection much