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    Yet more evidence for my “never trust a self described libertarian” stance. Hasn’t failed me yet.

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    Might as well mirror the whole site, run it elsewhere where the suits don’t have control over people.

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      I have an old 2023 copy of Wikipedia saved to my NAS using kiwix. This is probably the most recent version I’ll ever need. But yeah, it’s long overdue for some healthy competition, conflicts have been brewing for over a decade at this point.

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    We should probably all be downloading the website and printing off the important stuff, like how to make fire and why the sky-spirits get mad sometimes.

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      Should probably pull down a copy of Project Gutenberg too.

      Maybe there’s something of human output worth saving. If only so more fortunate future generations, should any exist, can pinpoint where shit went wrong.

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    the startups and nonprofits alike peak when it’s the people who do the actual work that create them to solve the actual problems yhey have and they fall when a bunch of mba’s take over to “make money”…

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    Cancelled my monthly. I’ll start it again when I receive info that the workers have a union.

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    I only donate from time to time but people who cancel recurring donations should write to them the reason as to why.

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    I don’t understand this, the employees are few and the pr fallout + fighting this is much more expensive than just agreeing to what they demand

    Plus it’s a foundation and shouldn’t have profit

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      the employees are few

      WMF has 650 employees.

      What they’re going to demand is preventing arbitrary layoffs, less bullying in the workspace, etc. Supposedly the Foundation is very toxic workplace. It’s not (just) about the money.

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    This is bad.

    …But I’m very worried about the future of Wikipedia.

    Questionable leadership or not, it is a lighthouse in the information dystopia of the 2020s, which literally helps hold society together.

    The far right wants it gone, and are not shy about screaming it, because Wikipedia is not compatible with fascism.

    If it becomes hated by the left too, and ignored by the masses because of Big Tech blacklists it, I worry it won’t have the political support to keep its prominence.


    And to be clear, I’m not worried about it dying. Wikipedia will stay where it is for decades.

    I’m worried about it ceasing to be popular.

    It doesn’t function as a uncontrolled source of information if no one sees it. Modern fascist censorship works by simply shifting attention.

    • iocase@lemmy.zip
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      The Wikimedia foundation vastly outpaces expenses. Despite doing their best to convince you if you don’t donate $10 right now Wikipedia will literally evaporate 🥺🙏

      They can afford to not pay like shit

      They’re also wasting massive amounts of money on things outside their core mission and scope.

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        I think you missed my point.

        I’m not worried about them running out of funding. I’m worried about their reputation in the public’s eye.

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        thanks for this info, cancelled my recurring donation 😮‍💨 I’ll give that money to a small local org instead

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      some entries are already questionable asf. some of them are written like an opinon piece, or a hs essay.

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        Wikipedia is made by people, like me and you. If you see bias or wrong information, you can either fix it or flag it with an appropriate template.

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          Unlikely you can just ‘fix’ most points on articles. They have mad gatekeepers.

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          I really would like to, but German Wikipedia for example is something of an inner circle where you can’t do shit. They don’t allow newcomers to touch most of the articles.

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            Please link such an article. I have never ever received a link to one when asking this question and I always ask for one/them when I read such “accusations”.

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            If you’re a newcomer, start with simple edits. Fix small mistakes. Show the community you can be trusted.

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    Wikimedia please fire whatever consulting firm told you it’s a good idea to do extractive capitalism as a non-profit foundation, reliant on long-term community goodwill and sustainable work ethics with low turnover rate

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    Was wondering when they were going to enshittify.

    Fuck you, Dimmy.

    EDIT: just realized something. I listen to Cory Doctorow’s podcast and he starts each episode off with a lengthy list of scheduled appearances. He’s been mentioning an upcoming appearance with Jimmy Wales. Looked it up. They’ll be on the same stage on August 17th. Wonder if this will come up.

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    I was initially 80/20 against/for Wikipedia’s stance. I tentatively agreed with Wales’ criticism of identity tracking for the initial vote, but needed more information to form a solid opinion. Then I saw the mention of their hiring a union busting firm in addition to their current relationship with a known union busting law firm.

    Fuck them, 100%. I immediately cancelled my ongoing monthly donation, which I’ve provided for years. Until the Wikimedia Foundation recognizes their unionized employees and works with them in good faith, they will get not a penny from me

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    Die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the enemy.