Yeah he loved it so much he kept coming back, bragged about loving killing and was stationed at Abu Ghraib. A literal blackwater mercenary with a Totenkropf tattoo.
This does raise a good question from a socialist perspective: Can someone even as far gone as Plattner change? Consider also that there were people in the Red Army that were previously in the White Army.
Consider also that there were people in the Red Army that were previously in the White Army.
Being in the Red Army is not equivalent to being a Senator. You don’t fuck up and then go into politics and seek out a leadership position as a “second chance.” That’s not forgiveness, that’s just failing to hold politicians accountable and letting powerful people get away with shit.
Humility is a requirement of forgiveness and seeking public office is in complete contradiction to that. You want forgiveness, go volunteer at a soup kitchen or some shit. Don’t fuck up and then immediately go, “I think I deserve to be invested with power.”
You’ve got me in your first two paragraphs but lose me in the third. I agree that people can show that they’re a fundamentally different person through hard work and successful change, but not that redemption is impossible.
I often like to return to the thought experiment of “if starting now everyone lived forever, how long would we imprison people for their crimes?” Also, we know Plattner was part of multiple evil organizations, but what do we actually know he did for them, because I genuinely don’t know.
For not supporting the nazi tattoo blackwater mercenary who committed war crimes, joined to kill brown people, and won’t shut the fuck up about wanting to rape a burglar. Yeah, anyone who doesnt like genocide is required to love him.
You’re certainly doing all you can to move the billionaire and AIPAC agenda forward while blaming it on fellow citizens. Good Job. They should pay you for your services making sure the left will never unite
So to be clear voting for an AIPAC candidate who is sending our tax dollars to a fascist religious extremist country that is currently committing an ongoing genocide against the indigenous people of the Middle East is anti Nazi? Lmao A country that claims to represent the victims of the holocaust while ignoring all the international laws put in place to prevent the same conduct that the Nazis operated by conducting themselves exactly like the third Reich. Also, a man who is proud of his multiple Nazi tattoos has now gotten us into a “holy” war to support the colony committing a genocide and you feel our number one enemy is a guy who is speaking out against these things? Israel is the turd Reich of our time. Dude is endorsed by track AIPAC they don’t endorse just anyone. Robert Maxwell published our textbooks so a lot of us were in the dark until recently. People support him because he’s the best candidate by far. Grow up. Aren’t you supposed to vote blue no matter who anyway?
Actually the extremist stance is the insanely normalized praise for a bunch of volunteer serial killers who do exactly what ICE did to Goode and Pretti, but they do it to brown people overseas so liberals don’t care.
So you’re saying Colin’s is the best choice?!?! We know she’s a magat pro genocide Nazi. Dude is anti Israel at a time Israel has literally infiltrated our government for nefarious purposes. I would take platner a million times over. My dad was a special forces multiple tour combat veteran from Vietnam who ended up becoming a hippie! People change war changes people and he has earned my respect.
Lemmy the only place where well-articulated sentences still get misinterpreted. You can say “I don’t like pancakes” and somebody will say “So you love waffles?” Dats a whole new sentence. Wtf is you talkin about.
The primary was not him vs. collins. You brought her up. She’s not the candidate that’s supposed to be in my party. Even though I don’t live in Maine if he claims to be a socialist I will hold him accountable. The Republican candidate does not claim socialist politics
He is now and He was the only viable candidate against colins. Democratic socialism is probably a pretty good path to save our democracy realistically.
Ok??? Because two demons are fighting for a seat at the devils table we shouldn’t point out that the one the so-called leftists hope will be on their side and is supportive of the resistance to genocide is in fact a demon and that the whole thing is a sham?
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Yeah he loved it so much he kept coming back, bragged about loving killing and was stationed at Abu Ghraib. A literal blackwater mercenary with a Totenkropf tattoo.
USians deserve to suffer if he is their hope…
This does raise a good question from a socialist perspective: Can someone even as far gone as Plattner change? Consider also that there were people in the Red Army that were previously in the White Army.
Being in the Red Army is not equivalent to being a Senator. You don’t fuck up and then go into politics and seek out a leadership position as a “second chance.” That’s not forgiveness, that’s just failing to hold politicians accountable and letting powerful people get away with shit.
Humility is a requirement of forgiveness and seeking public office is in complete contradiction to that. You want forgiveness, go volunteer at a soup kitchen or some shit. Don’t fuck up and then immediately go, “I think I deserve to be invested with power.”
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You’ve got me in your first two paragraphs but lose me in the third. I agree that people can show that they’re a fundamentally different person through hard work and successful change, but not that redemption is impossible.
I often like to return to the thought experiment of “if starting now everyone lived forever, how long would we imprison people for their crimes?” Also, we know Plattner was part of multiple evil organizations, but what do we actually know he did for them, because I genuinely don’t know.
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That’s a valid critique. His track record of change doesn’t really extend past promises that he’s different.
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Show me actual evidence that this guy is worse than Collins because it really seems like this is just a bs take.
Whataboutism
Whataboutism lmao. He is literally running against Colins. It’s pretty clear this page is pro genocide
For not supporting the nazi tattoo blackwater mercenary who committed war crimes, joined to kill brown people, and won’t shut the fuck up about wanting to rape a burglar. Yeah, anyone who doesnt like genocide is required to love him.
That’s a lot of things to say with no source to back it up
You’re certainly doing all you can to move the billionaire and AIPAC agenda forward while blaming it on fellow citizens. Good Job. They should pay you for your services making sure the left will never unite
You are not even close to being on “the left”
Do you hate all veterans? That’s a pretty extremist stance.
You’re pro nazi that is a pretty extremist stance.
So to be clear voting for an AIPAC candidate who is sending our tax dollars to a fascist religious extremist country that is currently committing an ongoing genocide against the indigenous people of the Middle East is anti Nazi? Lmao A country that claims to represent the victims of the holocaust while ignoring all the international laws put in place to prevent the same conduct that the Nazis operated by conducting themselves exactly like the third Reich. Also, a man who is proud of his multiple Nazi tattoos has now gotten us into a “holy” war to support the colony committing a genocide and you feel our number one enemy is a guy who is speaking out against these things? Israel is the turd Reich of our time. Dude is endorsed by track AIPAC they don’t endorse just anyone. Robert Maxwell published our textbooks so a lot of us were in the dark until recently. People support him because he’s the best candidate by far. Grow up. Aren’t you supposed to vote blue no matter who anyway?
Actually the extremist stance is the insanely normalized praise for a bunch of volunteer serial killers who do exactly what ICE did to Goode and Pretti, but they do it to brown people overseas so liberals don’t care.
It shouldn’t be
So you’re saying Colin’s is the best choice?!?! We know she’s a magat pro genocide Nazi. Dude is anti Israel at a time Israel has literally infiltrated our government for nefarious purposes. I would take platner a million times over. My dad was a special forces multiple tour combat veteran from Vietnam who ended up becoming a hippie! People change war changes people and he has earned my respect.
Slightly changing the meme:
Lemmy the only place where well-articulated sentences still get misinterpreted. You can say “I don’t like pancakes” and somebody will say “So you love waffles?” Dats a whole new sentence. Wtf is you talkin about.
Oh buddy… gestures to everywhere tho
Yeah but hence sayeth the meme 🤷
Show me actual evidence that this guy is worse than Collins.
Who here is talking about KKKollinSS?? That’s a whole other person
It’s him vs Colins
The primary was not him vs. collins. You brought her up. She’s not the candidate that’s supposed to be in my party. Even though I don’t live in Maine if he claims to be a socialist I will hold him accountable. The Republican candidate does not claim socialist politics
He is now and He was the only viable candidate against colins. Democratic socialism is probably a pretty good path to save our democracy realistically.
It wasn’t in the fucking primary
Now it is and anyone with eyes could see it was
Ok??? Because two demons are fighting for a seat at the devils table we shouldn’t point out that the one the so-called leftists hope will be on their side and is supportive of the resistance to genocide is in fact a demon and that the whole thing is a sham?