Hard disagree. Cheating with a spy is something he probably couldn’t have known, so that’s still between him and his wife. Cheating with a subordinate got me though. I’m not saying you can’t fall in love with your employee and they can’t fall in love with their boss, but the hierarchy involved in there gives the whole thing some tough dynamics. Remember Louis CK? This was in his statement about his sexual misconduct:
But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.
And it’s true.
That’s part of the reason why so many companies (including nvidia) have rules against this kind of thing. You want to fuck your hot department boss? Fine, but move to another department first. Don’t shit where you eat. That’s why I think it’s much more dramatic for him to have started an affair with his employee than the whole spy story. The Chinese might have fooled him, but I can’t see how he’s to blame for that. But being the boss of a big ass company with rules that say you can’t fuck your employees should mean he shouldn’t have fucked his employees.
You cannot be serious. Feeding secrets to the enemy is treason. Banging your subordinates is so far below that I can’t even describe how off the mark you are. It’s not about the rules of consent in relationships, it’s about national security.
I can guarantee you that all of the grossly wealthy people involved will get over being taken advantage of. What will happen to America’s technological defense status in the world now that the CEO of fucking NVIDIA has been feeding China high-end GPU hardware and probably state-level secrets??
This guy is probably going to have to talk to congress under oath. Do you really think they give a flying fuck about how dating your coworkers is problematic??
Also, as CEO, there’s literally nobody at nVidia who could turn him down and be sure of keeping their job. And, it’s not just a matter of “don’t shit where you eat”. It’s more “only fuck people who can freely say no”.
As for the Chinese, I still think that’s a big deal. At the very least, he did something that could be used to blackmail him. He also didn’t get someone to do a thorough background check on her – he’s rich enough that he could have hired a private security company unaffiliated with nVidia to do it if he wanted to keep things quiet. Plus, it’s hard to believe that he had sex with a spy and didn’t either divulge secrets, or agree to deals that weren’t in the company’s best interests. In addition, it wasn’t just any kind of spy, it was a Chinese spy, and the China is the one company where nVidia isn’t allowed to freely sell its products. It looks very likely that his affair with this spy led to nVidia breaking the law.
I’ve worked places where if you lost your security badge that was seen as a big deal, and if you did it more than once you’d risk getting fired. What he did goes way beyond that in terms of potential damage to the company.
I guess what’s weird to me is that the environment we are in is accepting of so much worse than anything Huang has done. I mean, if you want to talk about affairs, the US president is likely a child rapist. If you want to talk about national security, there are completely self interested actors with undeserved security clearances surrounding Trump. If you want to talk about corruption, Jared Kushner is negotiating with countries while privately making billion-dollar deals.
And what’s Huang done relative to that? Pretty close to nothing. It just seems fundamentally unserious to crucify Huang when worst stuff goes unexamined, like maybe all that’s really happened is he’s crossed the United States and its oligarchs and now he’s being punished.
It reminds me a little bit about how Putin would destroy his oligarchic enemies with corruption investigations. Were they corrupt? Absolutely! Everyone was! But their true crime was getting on Putin’s bad side.
It’s like justice unequally applied is injustice. You can see it international relations. Sure, we might pick up an occassional ethnic cleanser, or sanction an unruly warlord, but the United States and Israel get to do whatever the fuck they want, and now because the ICC is finally seriously investigating the US, they might be disbanded.
A major difference between Trump and Huang is that Trump is the president, for now, his party controls all three branches of the US government, and for now, he still has an iron grip over his party. It’s no surprise that he’s not being investigated under those conditions. In addition, any crimes happened at least a decade ago, and there are lots of other powerful people who don’t want the crimes investigated.
With Jensen Huang, the incident just happened, or maybe was ongoing. So, we’re not relying on faded memories or censored documents. There are photos of him with the woman from a few months(?) ago. Also, it involved nobody else, so it’s not some grand conspiracy that a lot of people are trying to keep quiet. And while he’s the CEO of the company, he doesn’t have any control over the investors in the company, so he couldn’t stop the stock price from plummeting. If it were a private company instead of a public one, he’d probably still be in charge. If it were things that happened a decade ago, he’d probably still be in charge. Finally, he’s a hecto-billionaire because of his nVidia stock, and his stock was plummeting because he was still CEO. The quickest solution to keep his own wealth was to resign. I doubt he’ll be charged with anything because he’s a hecto-billionaire and the AI bubble is propping up the stock market. He’ll probably do an apology tour and be back in charge at nVidia in a few years.
As for the ICC, the US never joined the ICC so it has no jurisdiction over the US. They’re not going to investigate the US because the US isn’t a member. And, when the ICC investigated people that Trump didn’t want investigated (Israelis, not Americans because America isn’t part of the ICC) Trump had US companies cut them off. Since American companies are so tied into the modern world, this meant lots of ICC personnel were effectively isolated from the world. Unless and until the US joins the ICC, the ICC won’t be investigating Americans. But, hopefully the new US congress will allow the ICC to continue its work without being harassed by the Trump admin.
Nvidia doesn’t just make GPUs. According to the Gamers Nexus video that dropped yesterday, there is evidence of Russian drones being equipped with Nvidia Jetson boards, which are a complete computer on a mini board in various guises, including with inbuilt GPU/NPU chips for AI tasks. But these also have everything else a computer needs to be a computer. The drones presumably use these for target identification, navigation, or both.
Given that Russia is currently at least on paper heavily sanctioned by the US, it is illegal for a US company (Nvidia) to sell products to them.
Russia has been using NVIDIA Jetson boards in their drones. I’m guessing for autonomous capable drones for computer vision/navigation in GPS and radio denied environments.
I disagree that only one is of interest to the public.
He’s CEO of a publicly traded company. It’s relevant to anyone with even a fraction of a share, which could be a large percentage of the population given the diversification of mutual funds, retirement accounts, etc.
Infidelity is an indicator of his decision making capability. Whether he can properly estimate the results and consequences of his decisions and actions.
The ban was mostly a way to stifle open source and give a few AI juggernauts an easier monopoly. He did us a favor on that one.
What we should be talking about is Nvidia’s current quasi-monopoly and how they use it with or without Jensen (prices, nerfing their own cards, creating artificial scarcity on top of the regular scarcity, probably collusion at multiple levels, etc). The regular stuff that doesn’t involve China or Jenson’s sexcapades is worse imo.
The cheating is not the issue, that is between him and his wife. The alleged export ban evasion and potential smuggling is.
Can we please stop focusing on the infidelity?
Don’t dismiss that he slept with subordinates. Sleeping with someone you can fire or demote is not right. Was there coercion?
Hard disagree. Cheating with a spy is something he probably couldn’t have known, so that’s still between him and his wife. Cheating with a subordinate got me though. I’m not saying you can’t fall in love with your employee and they can’t fall in love with their boss, but the hierarchy involved in there gives the whole thing some tough dynamics. Remember Louis CK? This was in his statement about his sexual misconduct:
And it’s true.
That’s part of the reason why so many companies (including nvidia) have rules against this kind of thing. You want to fuck your hot department boss? Fine, but move to another department first. Don’t shit where you eat. That’s why I think it’s much more dramatic for him to have started an affair with his employee than the whole spy story. The Chinese might have fooled him, but I can’t see how he’s to blame for that. But being the boss of a big ass company with rules that say you can’t fuck your employees should mean he shouldn’t have fucked his employees.
Hey, let’s not make assumptions.
She may have been shagging him for career progression. This is a story about success!
Man, I would blow somebody for a high paying job, shame I’m ugly, not into dicks and don’t know any CEOs.
You cannot be serious. Feeding secrets to the enemy is treason. Banging your subordinates is so far below that I can’t even describe how off the mark you are. It’s not about the rules of consent in relationships, it’s about national security.
I can guarantee you that all of the grossly wealthy people involved will get over being taken advantage of. What will happen to America’s technological defense status in the world now that the CEO of fucking NVIDIA has been feeding China high-end GPU hardware and probably state-level secrets??
This guy is probably going to have to talk to congress under oath. Do you really think they give a flying fuck about how dating your coworkers is problematic??
Also, as CEO, there’s literally nobody at nVidia who could turn him down and be sure of keeping their job. And, it’s not just a matter of “don’t shit where you eat”. It’s more “only fuck people who can freely say no”.
As for the Chinese, I still think that’s a big deal. At the very least, he did something that could be used to blackmail him. He also didn’t get someone to do a thorough background check on her – he’s rich enough that he could have hired a private security company unaffiliated with nVidia to do it if he wanted to keep things quiet. Plus, it’s hard to believe that he had sex with a spy and didn’t either divulge secrets, or agree to deals that weren’t in the company’s best interests. In addition, it wasn’t just any kind of spy, it was a Chinese spy, and the China is the one company where nVidia isn’t allowed to freely sell its products. It looks very likely that his affair with this spy led to nVidia breaking the law.
I’ve worked places where if you lost your security badge that was seen as a big deal, and if you did it more than once you’d risk getting fired. What he did goes way beyond that in terms of potential damage to the company.
But, at least these were adults.
I guess what’s weird to me is that the environment we are in is accepting of so much worse than anything Huang has done. I mean, if you want to talk about affairs, the US president is likely a child rapist. If you want to talk about national security, there are completely self interested actors with undeserved security clearances surrounding Trump. If you want to talk about corruption, Jared Kushner is negotiating with countries while privately making billion-dollar deals.
And what’s Huang done relative to that? Pretty close to nothing. It just seems fundamentally unserious to crucify Huang when worst stuff goes unexamined, like maybe all that’s really happened is he’s crossed the United States and its oligarchs and now he’s being punished.
It reminds me a little bit about how Putin would destroy his oligarchic enemies with corruption investigations. Were they corrupt? Absolutely! Everyone was! But their true crime was getting on Putin’s bad side.
It’s like justice unequally applied is injustice. You can see it international relations. Sure, we might pick up an occassional ethnic cleanser, or sanction an unruly warlord, but the United States and Israel get to do whatever the fuck they want, and now because the ICC is finally seriously investigating the US, they might be disbanded.
It’s all a farce.
A major difference between Trump and Huang is that Trump is the president, for now, his party controls all three branches of the US government, and for now, he still has an iron grip over his party. It’s no surprise that he’s not being investigated under those conditions. In addition, any crimes happened at least a decade ago, and there are lots of other powerful people who don’t want the crimes investigated.
With Jensen Huang, the incident just happened, or maybe was ongoing. So, we’re not relying on faded memories or censored documents. There are photos of him with the woman from a few months(?) ago. Also, it involved nobody else, so it’s not some grand conspiracy that a lot of people are trying to keep quiet. And while he’s the CEO of the company, he doesn’t have any control over the investors in the company, so he couldn’t stop the stock price from plummeting. If it were a private company instead of a public one, he’d probably still be in charge. If it were things that happened a decade ago, he’d probably still be in charge. Finally, he’s a hecto-billionaire because of his nVidia stock, and his stock was plummeting because he was still CEO. The quickest solution to keep his own wealth was to resign. I doubt he’ll be charged with anything because he’s a hecto-billionaire and the AI bubble is propping up the stock market. He’ll probably do an apology tour and be back in charge at nVidia in a few years.
As for the ICC, the US never joined the ICC so it has no jurisdiction over the US. They’re not going to investigate the US because the US isn’t a member. And, when the ICC investigated people that Trump didn’t want investigated (Israelis, not Americans because America isn’t part of the ICC) Trump had US companies cut them off. Since American companies are so tied into the modern world, this meant lots of ICC personnel were effectively isolated from the world. Unless and until the US joins the ICC, the ICC won’t be investigating Americans. But, hopefully the new US congress will allow the ICC to continue its work without being harassed by the Trump admin.
All true. Especially
The sex is the only reason this story has legs.
Gamers Nexus did a three hour movie about the smuggling pipeline a year ago, couldn’t keep it in the headlines.
People like gossip about sex.
Ed Zitron has been screaming about all this for a hot ass minute and no one cared until this scandal dropped
There is 0 evidence of him supplying anything to china. 100% its a psyop by MOSSAD to setup an israeli as CEO of nvidia
I’m not American so I don’t care about that. 😇
It seems a lot of the illegally smuggled chips ended up in Russian drones used against Ukraine.
But you do you.
They’re putting gpus in drones??
Nvidia doesn’t just make GPUs. According to the Gamers Nexus video that dropped yesterday, there is evidence of Russian drones being equipped with Nvidia Jetson boards, which are a complete computer on a mini board in various guises, including with inbuilt GPU/NPU chips for AI tasks. But these also have everything else a computer needs to be a computer. The drones presumably use these for target identification, navigation, or both.
Given that Russia is currently at least on paper heavily sanctioned by the US, it is illegal for a US company (Nvidia) to sell products to them.
Russia has been using NVIDIA Jetson boards in their drones. I’m guessing for autonomous capable drones for computer vision/navigation in GPS and radio denied environments.
They put AI in drones. With guns.
I mean, the infidelity with a possible spy is also an issue.
Those are two different things and only of them is (should be) of interest to the public.
I disagree that only one is of interest to the public.
He’s CEO of a publicly traded company. It’s relevant to anyone with even a fraction of a share, which could be a large percentage of the population given the diversification of mutual funds, retirement accounts, etc.
Infidelity is an indicator of his decision making capability. Whether he can properly estimate the results and consequences of his decisions and actions.
I have to admit, the shareholder’s mind is a mystery to me.
Damn straight. Immoral though it may be, illegal it’s not. The export ban evasion is.
The ban was mostly a way to stifle open source and give a few AI juggernauts an easier monopoly. He did us a favor on that one.
What we should be talking about is Nvidia’s current quasi-monopoly and how they use it with or without Jensen (prices, nerfing their own cards, creating artificial scarcity on top of the regular scarcity, probably collusion at multiple levels, etc). The regular stuff that doesn’t involve China or Jenson’s sexcapades is worse imo.
I mean, being a CEO is a job of showing good judgment and trust as well. And those qualities are damaged when this is revealed.
Which would explain the resignation.
I think it’s a combination of being spied on and the unfaithfulness. Both of which shows a lack of judgment.
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