• tyler@programming.dev
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    11 hours ago

    That would be a very weird conclusion when Macs were generally the ones taught in school, and are also based on BSD.

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      A lot of apple’s design philosophy hides the technical detail, to try and create a friction-free user experience. Android does the same thing, but apple were doing it earlier and on desktop devices to some extent. Windows back in the day was significantly more transparent, although I don’t know if I can say the same for modern windows

      That’s well and good for some things, but the concern that it reduces the natural tendency to become highly tech literate is genuine.

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        10 hours ago

        add to that that for some time in history it was quite common to build your own pc (something that abviously went away with rise of laptops), which required whole other level of understanding.

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        This has been my experience and have anecdotal evidence of people who can use a Mac but don’t understand any of it. One customer we had problems with until we just cut it off was that she’d have issues with her Mac and couldn’t navigate it effectively to try troubleshooting. She didn’t understand how to install on it so we could run remote management software.

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        You used entirely different OSes than me then. Macs were not easy to use while windows was standard. If you were using a Mac you were learning a lot more since the majority of PCs in homes were windows and you didn’t have to do anything on them.

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          No. The only hard thing with macs was and is tivoization, because they want to decide what you can install and what not; that’s the reason why jailbreaks and things as brew and all that had to be created.

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      My school system used macs before OSX and switched to Windows almost entirely when OS 9 was still the latest thing. Sounds like another user had the same experience. OS 9 was nothing like unix and had no terminal even, to my knowledge.

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      11 hours ago

      your car’s main control unit may also be based on bsd (i have no idea whether that is in fact the case) but surprisingly most people would not call themselves experts on car electronic just because they drive a car.

      while a lot of people considers themselves to be “it experts” just because they were raised by youtube instead of their parents since the age of 2.

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      Apple hasn’t always used a Unix-like system, though. The old Mac OS on those school computers was it’s own beast.

      And now it seems like schools go for either chromebooks or tablets anyway.