• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    12 hours ago

    this is true except for the russian oligarchs trying to take over the usa.

    it’s the opposite: american oligarchs (aka the epsteins) had taken over the entire western world and reached into russia back in the 90’s and it enabled another oligarchy in their own image.

    the problem is that the russian oligarchy is nationalist, unlike the epsteins, so their goals are in sometimes in conflict with the epsteins; hence the election interference. it’s just another version of inter-class infighting, but for the ruling class and on a global stage.

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      12 hours ago

      Valid. I didn’t mean that that Russian Oligarchs (Mobsters) were directly taking over America, I meant that they took over Russia, and Russia was promoting far-right movements across the globe. Other Sociopathic Oligarchs have allied with that same strategy, and are all pushing the same things, but the nation with the biggest influence is Russia, being led by their Organized Crime government.

      It is a simple fact that Russia has interfered directly, and substantially, in the last three presidential elections, and probably several before that, and it is silly to debate that. There is no doubt that Trump has been heavily steered by the Putin, we have seen it with our own eyes. Just look at Trump’s latest adventure. He shut down the world’s oil supply, but removed sanctions on Russian oil. Everybody else in the world, including America, has to take a serious hit on the global oil shortage, except Russia, who gets to make money on it (which they need badly), thanks to TRUMP.

      Also silly is to completely dismiss the work done by intelligence agencies. Sure, we all know they do lots of sketchy stuff, that’s the nature of intelligence, but they tend to be smart, competent people, who know what they are doing.

      I’ve seen many reports on what the Russians were up to in 2016, 2020, and 2024, and there was no doubt that were trying hard to cause trouble. I’m not going to just ignore what I know because it’s cool and edgy to just dismiss out of hand anything that comes from an intelligence agency.

      When an intelligence agency makes an announcement, of course you have to consider any ulterior motives, which are almost always there, but to just dismiss EVERYTHING they do is dumb.

      Of course, the other reason to dismiss everything from a valid source like intelligence agencies is because it doesn’t fit your narrative, which is disengenuous.

      So, dumb or disngenuous?

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        12 hours ago

        more accurate

        americans have been groomed to believe in cults of personality since the 70’s starting with the evangelicals and trump simply took advantage of it; obama proves that there’s a similar cult for liberals.

        and oligarchs interfere anywhere that they can, it doesn’t matter what nation that they’re originally based in; they will never suffer the consequences of their actions – only we will.

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          Valid.

          America has a serious problem with celebrity.

          And we will have to do something globally about the rising influence of Sociopathic Oligarchs. They are already getting rich enough that they are starting to cut personal deals with nations, without regard to their own nation, or whatever nation they purport to be citizens of.

          Soon they will reach trillionaire status, and become even more powerful, and it is just a matter of time before an alliance is formed, a landmass is purchased or conquered, and they establish their own nation, with their own laws, and their own military.

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            11 hours ago

            the alliances have already manifested themselves several times in the last century or so and the collapse of the soviet union was probably one of their greatest achievements since they succeeded in their goal despite an overwhelming majority of russians resisting the change through voting and violence.

            and the existence of oligarchs along w the american affinity for celebrity are also manifestations of that grooming that i mentioned in my previous comment.

            the only way to stop it is to through collective action; which is why the oligarchies in the west took pains to prevent collectivization through any and all means available to them and the oligarchies of the global south and russia have followed suit. the epstein files proves how much the western oligarchy feared collectivization in examples like the “me too” and “occupy wall street” movements which are both explicitly referenced in both the epstein files and the maxwell court case.

            none of this is new and all this has already been dissected ad nauseam via examination essays/papers of the circumstances that created the white army and the soviet union’s collapse.