• orc girly@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    You need to diversify your news consumption, you can dislike Russia and reactionary movements and simultaneously engage with reality

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      10 hours ago

      Russia was literally the driver of far-right extremism before the fall of the Soviet Union, and Russia has continued to be the driver of far-right extremism since the end of the Cold War. That is a simple geo-political fact that is accepted by EVERY authentic political entity and news media on the planet.

      Anybody saying that Russia has NOT been the leader in promoting Western Far-Right Extremism is spewing Russian propaganda. They are either a Russian propagandist, a treasonous MAGA, or a stupid, gullible pawn, or any combination of the three.

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        8 hours ago

        Russia was literally the driver of far-right extremism before the fall of the Soviet Union

        The USSR was one of the main reasons why Hitler didn’t win, what are you talking about lol

        authentic political entity and news media on the planet.

        What’s the bar for that? Authentic in what sense? And if you’re including the media that lied to our faces for the last few years on Palestine then I have to dispute their veracity.

        Either way my point isn’t that you should like Russia or Putin or believe in something uncritically, my point was that western media has predicted Russian collapsing any minute now for years and it doesn’t seem to be the case, so some skepticism is warranted. As long as you’re aware of the biases of the media you consume you can at least understand it better, and this includes whatever media and personalities you find trustworthy.

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          7 hours ago

          The USSR was one of the main reasons why Hitler didn’t win, what are you talking about lol

          I’ll go you one better, and say that Soviet Union is precisely the reason that the Nazis lost WWII. America made it easier by providing a Western front, but the Soviets would have prevailed anyway. But so what? That’s totally irrelevant to what RUSSIA was up to 80 years later, LOL. The Russia of the 2020s is a completely different nation than the Soviet Union of the 1940s. It’s like comparing modern America to pre-Civil War America.

          And I’m not going to play that MAGA Media game, that’s nonsense. Gee, the media has biases? I had no idea, thanks for the heads up, I hadn’t noticed that over the numerous decades I’ve spent following it every single day.

          my point was that western media has predicted Russian collapsing any minute now for years and it doesn’t seem to be the case,

          Except they did collapse in 1989, remember? Of course you don’t. Nothing occured in the 6.5 billion years before you were born. Except that the Soviet Union stopped Hitler. You were awake for that day in History class.

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            7 hours ago

            I only brought up the USSR because you claimed that Russia was exporting far right ideology before the fall of the USSR.

            Except they did collapse in 1989, remember?

            Again, you were claiming MODERN Russia would collapse soon, I was pushing back against that because they have been saying that forever in media and so far it doesn’t seem to be happening.

            Last thing, please don’t be so rude, I was trying not to insult or offend you.