• antisoumerde@quokk.au
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    The point of their deamonization of china is to make them less bad in comparaison. But guess who isn’t led by a notorious pedophile? China. Guess who didn’t kidnap a head of state? China. Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China

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      23 hours ago

      let me preface this by saying I hate the direction the U.S. government has taken (both in general and more as of late), but

      > “Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China”

      [squints]

      [looks over at China]

      Well, not yet they don’t, I guess. But hey, 2026 isn’t even half over yet, we still got time to get this world war started proper.

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        20 hours ago

        This keeps coming up. Go Google search the last time China used military force to get something done.

        Eventually you have to realize the only people who see potential war everywhere are Americans.

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          China is the fourth largest producer of arms now and sells weapons to war torn regions. Giving China the benefit of the doubt when they are now cranking out more billionaires than the US is a ship that sailed a long time ago.

          Trumplethinskin, just like Pooh bear, has designs on neighboring countries. Mr. Pooh himself, “Taiwan independence is the chief culprit in undermining peace in the Taiwan Strait - we will absolutely not tolerate or condone it.” Yeah, something an imperialist would say, reminiscemt of Russia and Ukraine.

          Refusal to recognize Taiwan’s unique culture and self-determination is just another nail in a very large coffin of Chinese Imperialism. While I do applaud them for not directly engaging in military conflict there is little reason to when they can control them politically much in the same way the US controls Mexico or Canada.

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        > “Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China”

        [squints]

        Sorry, I think they meant they don’t bomb countries in the material world that actually exists. In the speculative fantasy world that exists in your head, I’m sure they do all kinds of absolutely horrible things.

        In fact, I think it’s high time that the imaginary world places imaginary sanctions on imaginary China.

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          In the speculative fantasy world that exists in your head, I’m sure they do all kinds of absolutely horrible things.

          Oh, you’d like to talk about horrible things that China is already doing now, not just making preparations to do? Sure thing, friend. Where would you like to start?

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            Oh wow, you’re all the way into the organ harvesting stuff, that’s deep in the propaganda lore.

            You know Falun Gong claims that the reason China is supposedly harvesting their organs is because they claim their organs have mystical powers? Do you believe that too, or is China just doing it because of some generic comic book supervillain motivations?

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      make them less bad in comparaison

      Okay, but I’m told that’s Whataboutism and all Americans are immune to it

      But guess who isn’t led by a notorious pedophile? China. Guess who didn’t kidnap a head of state? China. Guess who doesn’t bomb countries for breakfast? China

      I’m more than confident that you can find allegations of child sexual assault, kidnapping of rival leaders, and military campaigns against neighbors aimed at China.

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        yes, keyword being “allegations”. Regarding america, we’ve been past that for a decade

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          keyword being “allegations”

          So, the abduction of Gedhun Choekyi Nyima is more than a mere allegation. Of course, the entire selection process for the Panchen and Dalai Lamas is itself rife with controversy, as it functionally involves randomly selecting some local child and whisking them away from their parents to be indoctrinated by Tibetian monks.

          Similarly, there’s the open question of Taiwan’s sovereignty, as well as a history of Chinese intervention in neighboring territories. Nothing compared to the US decapitation and conquest of Iraq or Afghanistan, of course. But China was absolutely involved in armed conflict with the Vietnamese back in the 1960s/70s.

          You can eek out parallels and hand wave comparisons if you know the history well enough and where to look. Chinese private security firms are all over Africa, for instance. Plenty of comparisons you can make between that and the old US/Europe model of filibustering, if you squint and don’t think too hard.

          TL;DR; its far more than just allegations. The real difference is in scope. US interventions are orders of magnitude larger.