EFF exists to protect people’s digital rights. Not just the people who already value our work, have opted out of surveillance, or have already migrated to the fediverse. The people who need us most are often the ones most embedded in the walled gardens of the mainstream platforms
Hence why this article is about them leaving the openly Nazi billionaire’s platform while remaining on other platforms that are mainstream and still provide a lot of reach :)
A non-profit that fights daily for our electronic freedoms can leave X whenever they damn well please. They decided today was that day and I am perfectly fine with that.
Zuckerberg and Gates own the only other mainstream social media sites. While the fediverse is neat, the entirety of all federated services, including the pretty failed launch of bluesky, is less than the userbase of just facebook, in just the Philippines.
And both of them are pedophiles, and while I don’t know if Gates is a nazi, Zuckerberg absolutely is.
Also reddit, I guess, u/spez is a nazi, and reddit had the longest running clearweb jailbait site in world history so…
Eh he is a big failure, and failed up his whole life just like DJT. They managed to fail at being human beings with empathy, but musk is so awkward he failed to get an invite to the oedo parties.
None of them can be saved? That seems statistically unlikely.
But back up a bit, that comment I made is a general truth, it doesn’t just apply to this situation. When someone is wrong, you correct them, that’s generally just the right course of action.
I will say that double posting is a completely reasonable solution. More orgs should be the gateway where they can be seen, and have the visibility of the big platforms, but they also offer Mastodon as an alternative. If enough orgs do that, it enables people to just… move.
It’s hard for users to move when 75% of their content is exclusive to X. And it’s hard for orgs to move when 75% of the users are on X. Double posting allows this to move to 10% X exclusive content, 60% content that’s available everywhere, and 10% exclusive to open platforms. After the orgs move the content, it’s so much easier for users to move, and after the users move, it’s easier for the orgs to move.
This should be a cooperative thing. And afaik it doesn’t take that much effort to post the content to two places.
That’s why people have found out recently that existing on legacy and new way better platforms is good way to get accustomed to new ones. Along with to keep bringing people in to do the same of having one foot on both sides
That was valid back in, like, 2020. Everyone who ever had an interest in leaving their gilded cage, who needed help, already had more than enough time to choose. The people who stay over there now ,are because they choose to be beyond salvation.
From their mastodon:
There are plenty of mainstream platforms to reach such people on that aren’t owned by (openly) Nazi billionaires.
Hence why this article is about them leaving the openly Nazi billionaire’s platform while remaining on other platforms that are mainstream and still provide a lot of reach :)
Yah, it’s the EFF, they get significant latitude from their history.
As they should.
A non-profit that fights daily for our electronic freedoms can leave X whenever they damn well please. They decided today was that day and I am perfectly fine with that.
EFF is one of the orgs I often donate to.
And the argument is sound even without appeal to authority. You’re so right!
Exactly, and these platforms are only mainstream now, many of them had much smaller userbases before the X takeover of Twitter.
Name one single mainstream (i.e. >10 million users) platform that isn’t owned by a nazi pedophile billionaire.
Yeah, that’s why I included the word ‘openly’ in there.
X is owned by a wannabe pedophile from what the Epstein files showed, so maybe X is the only one?
Zuckerberg and Gates own the only other mainstream social media sites. While the fediverse is neat, the entirety of all federated services, including the pretty failed launch of bluesky, is less than the userbase of just facebook, in just the Philippines.
And both of them are pedophiles, and while I don’t know if Gates is a nazi, Zuckerberg absolutely is.
Also reddit, I guess, u/spez is a nazi, and reddit had the longest running clearweb jailbait site in world history so…
So you’re making my point?
Oh I see, you think musk is only a wannabe pedophile. Grok says otherwise.
Eh he is a big failure, and failed up his whole life just like DJT. They managed to fail at being human beings with empathy, but musk is so awkward he failed to get an invite to the oedo parties.
There’s nothing wrong with preaching to Nazis. Sure, most aren’t likely to really listen, but they are the people who need to hear this most.
You don’t write people off because they’re wrong, you correct them.
More over, most of the people there are lurkers. Our comments should be directed to them.
Correcting? They can’t be saved when social networks amplify and surround them.
Unless you mean “Correcting”
None of them can be saved? That seems statistically unlikely.
But back up a bit, that comment I made is a general truth, it doesn’t just apply to this situation. When someone is wrong, you correct them, that’s generally just the right course of action.
I will say that double posting is a completely reasonable solution. More orgs should be the gateway where they can be seen, and have the visibility of the big platforms, but they also offer Mastodon as an alternative. If enough orgs do that, it enables people to just… move.
It’s hard for users to move when 75% of their content is exclusive to X. And it’s hard for orgs to move when 75% of the users are on X. Double posting allows this to move to 10% X exclusive content, 60% content that’s available everywhere, and 10% exclusive to open platforms. After the orgs move the content, it’s so much easier for users to move, and after the users move, it’s easier for the orgs to move.
This should be a cooperative thing. And afaik it doesn’t take that much effort to post the content to two places.
That’s why people have found out recently that existing on legacy and new way better platforms is good way to get accustomed to new ones. Along with to keep bringing people in to do the same of having one foot on both sides
That was valid back in, like, 2020. Everyone who ever had an interest in leaving their gilded cage, who needed help, already had more than enough time to choose. The people who stay over there now ,are because they choose to be beyond salvation.
Sure, but advocates for prison reform don’t have to be incarcerated.
But they also should visit and be able to interact with prisons lmao.