• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    3 days ago

    Oh no! If the evil fascists take over, they might start a war of aggression that kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people or something! Just imagine!

    There’s a discussion to be had about potentially supporting imperfect candidates, but every single one of you takes it to a ridiculous extreme, such that even outright genocide is no biggie. It’s completely ridiculous, utterly absurd. Frankly, yours is not a view that should even be tolerated in society.

    A complete and total refusal to hold politicians to any degree of accountability for literally anything, treating them as completely above the law. This is exactly why the term Blue MAGA is completely appropriate. You are the moderate wing of fascism.

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      3 days ago

      Ah yes Harris would be exactly like trump. Well hope youbenjoy your country burning to the ground. Have fun. And stio complaining your complicit in the whole thing.

      • dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 days ago

        I love how libs can’t address the points that other people make, and have to keep making up arguments that nobody is saying, to yell at.

        Also, the “person who supports genocidists is mad that their genocidist didn’t get elected” is such a silly concept to me. Then they turn around and yell at the anti-genocidists for “being complicit”.

    • adjectivenoun@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      3 days ago

      Blue MAGA

      This is one of those phrases that tells everyone exactly what they need to know about you. Have a great day!

        • adjectivenoun@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          3 days ago

          Indeed. It says, “I can see you’ve accomplished a level of self delusion I won’t be able to penetrate, so I’m not going to waste my time.”

          • hans@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            it tells me that you don’t know how liberal democracies lay the groundwork for fascism

              • hans@feddit.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                2 days ago

                no one is suggesting that, either. there is a cure for political illiteracy.

                  • hans@feddit.org
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    23 hours ago

                    you actually don’t have any idea what I’m talking about. please just try to learn about how liberal democracies breed fascism.

        • adjectivenoun@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          3 days ago

          Well if you live in a swing state, you deserve it for plunging my homeland into fascism. Have a mediocre day!

          • dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            3 days ago

            I love how Libs always try to blame others for their mistakes.

            “If you didn’t vote for the party that bombs kids, supports rapists, and backed a genocide, it’s because you actually like fascism!”

            This is why the term BlueMAGA works so well: Because Libs can’t see their own cultish hypocrisy, even when it’s staring at them in the mirror.

          • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            I didn’t plunge anybody’s homeland into fascism. It’s just that you’d just rather punch left than blame the people actually responsible.

            There have been many times throughout history where people have considered genocide as acceptable to prevent a greater evil. Every single one of them was wrong.

            “If the enemy is at the gates, we need to round up and exterminate anyone of their race, because if they open the gates to them, they’ll kill us all. The lesser evil is for just some people to die.” That is the level of morality that you’re operating on. Go ahead and lecture me on what kind of day I “deserve,” as if willingness to sacrifice the lives of innocents is somehow a moral virtue and not a sign of your spinelessness and depravity.

            • adjectivenoun@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              3 days ago

              I didn’t plunge anybody’s homeland into fascism.

              Sorry, but you helped. You decided that your morality was more important than your efficacy. One day you will grow up and regret your decisions like I did. Sorry.

              • dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                3 days ago

                Harris decided that supporting genocide was more important than keeping Trump out of office, but for some weird reason, I’m guessing we won’t hear you blame her.

              • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                3 days ago

                Sorry, but you helped.

                Well then, you’re welcome. Because if I “helped” Trump get elected, then by the exact same logic I “helped” Biden get elected, and you can rest assured that I will be “helping” your favorite genocidal warmonger next time.

                You decided that your morality was more important than your efficacy.

                Yes, obviously. That’s what having morals means. Do you believe it is morally wrong to have morals? Because you might want to examine the very obvious logical contradiction there.

                One day you will grow up and regret your decisions like I did.

                If I knew that I would wake up tomorrow thinking that, I would kill myself tonight, without hesitation.

                One day, perhaps, you will grow up and realize the true extent of what you’re supporting. It’s only possible for you to think the way you do because of your blissful ignorance of what your people are doing on the other side of the wall.

                • adjectivenoun@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  3 days ago

                  “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good [people] to do nothing.”

                  You’re doing nothing, and there’s nothing conscientious or moral about it. I hope you develop a stronger will to live before this truth sinks in.

                  • BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    Its so funny that you people think the only thing that can be done is to vote. Its even more funny that you dont see how you’re actively helping “evil”.

                  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    3 days ago

                    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good [people] to do nothing.”

                    It’s insane that this is actually the second time in my life that someone has tried to twist and bastardize that quote to try to justify the invasion of Afghanistan. The other was a Trump voter.

                    “Evil triumphing” is when hundreds of thousands of civilians get murdered. “Doing nothing” is when you refuse to lift a finger oppose the people responsible. What the two of you fail to understand is that you are the evil that triumphs when good people do nothing. And what you do is even worse than nothing, because you actively support them