• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    The usa shamelessly did them in Iraq, Afghanistan, vietnam. Israel shamelesly constantly been doing them for decades

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      The difference being that, in the past, they would at least try to dress civilian deaths up as a regretable necessity or the fault of evil individuals gone rogue. Now they’re cause for celebratory emojis and American flags in the team’s Signal chat.

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          I’m open to the argument that there are many precedents for the US going into many illegal wars of aggression, but it’s a wild take to not recognize that the American rhetoric has… taken a bit of a turn lately.

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            at least try to dress civilian deaths up as a regrettable necessity or the fault of evil individuals gone rogue

            For example in Vietnam the USA did actually blame the death of civilians on the Vietcong by accusing them of using human shields. Israel claimed that the Palestinians voluntarily left the land .

            Ben-Gurion and Yosef Weitz is the other side who shamelessly praise the nekba with no excuses

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              Yeah, but the “human shield” thing is still trying to spin it though, no? At most, Pete Hegseth would dismiss any questions of civilian deaths as “woke media shit”.

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                  It’s the difference between “shooting and crying” and “shooting and laughing.” there’s no shame anymore, 0 back pressure against the worst possible depravity, no reason to waste money on PR anymore that could be spent on more bombs, because what’s anyone going to do about it?

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                    I don’t see a big difference between no we didn’t kill and target innocent civilians it is just the woke media lying and yes we killed civilians but we didn’t mean it , it just that “terrorist” was hiding with them