• lumpenproletariat@quokk.au
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    3 days ago

    Both are bad, neither is worse than the US.

    Just going by invasions and regime changes alone the US takes the cake. That’s before you get into the spreading crack into black communities, chemical weapons on civilians, drone strikes on children, ecological destruction, genocide enabling, etc etc.

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      3 days ago

      By numbers US is probably worse but the level of cruelty from Russia is unmatched outside of terrorist organizations

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        How so? You’d have to bring up Tsarist Russia atrocities to match American ones. I for one can’t think of something more cruel than napalming villages in Vietnam, or dropping nukes on civilians in Japan, and that’s just a couple of examples in the vast bucket of wsr crimes of the US.

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        Would it really be tho?

        Like the US targets children and social gatherings to attack, tortures/rapes/murders innocent civilians in black sites, keeps a racial based underclass who they hook on drugs, violently assault from childhood, and lock up in record numbers to serve as legal slave labour. That’s pretty fucking cruel stuff.

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          Also invades small countries on whim, votes against the well-being of humankind, meddle in other countries’ affairs, has been in war for more than 90% of it’s existence, never held itself accountable, experiments on its own citizens, and is ruled by a cabal of paedophiles.

        • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip
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          All true but I never seen videos o people being killed by sledgehammer to the head or castrated in cold blood with a blunt knife coming from the US.

          • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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            The US has a myriad of world famous serial killers, i’m sure you can find one with that modus operandi.

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      i hate defending the US because it has had more direct bad impact on my life but by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse, and if we lump current China to not even that long ago China the numbers killed are not even close

      the scale of China’s population just blows it all out of proportion

      Nazi Germany wasn’t even the worst genocide of its time (what a putrid statement though true)

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        Wow you’re truly stupid lmao. surely a genocide that massive in the modern era would have ANY FUCKING EVIDENCE

      • pet the cat, walk the dog@lemmy.world
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        by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse

        Idk what lost life you’re counting, because it’s pretty well known that civilian casualties in just the Iraq war most likely dwarf Ukrainian losses.

        • baines@lemmy.cafe
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          ffs google, it is painful when i can tell people are not even trying and just mad at the US

          i get it i do, US is doing bad shit but it’s obvious you’re not even trying to look

          • pet the cat, walk the dog@lemmy.world
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            Oh indeed thanks for telling me that I need to google your vague and in no way clarified idea of what Russia is doing, when I can read goddamn Russian language itself and have been reading independent Russian-language opposition media covering Russian reality for ages, and know a whole lot more about it than you do.

            • baines@lemmy.cafe
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              i’m not even going to read past the first line

              only two of you seem lost on what to do

              you don’t wanna that’s fine don’t care

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        50+million chinese people and the ughyger genocide people would like to have a word with you. looks like .ML have come in droves to defend CCP/and russian genocide, must be nice to support that. Also white genocide isnt a thing, you racist.

        • baines@lemmy.cafe
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          huh? write out your point like I’m 5 because it sounds like we agree and i’m confused