Anyone here still thinks there’s a chance that EU will not go through some anti-immigration phase in the near future?
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Isn’t US severely damaging their farming and industry by deporting thousands and thousands of immigrants?
Yup. The real question is the only side effect of it higher produce prices? It seems the wealthy elite have decided to peasants don’t really matter anymore and who gives a fuck with the cost to survive there’s too many of them anyway. /s
Coming to a developed country near you. The elites have made up their minds. And they settled on the fact that we can all die except them.
Their secluded private island/bunker/fortress will eventually run out of food to water or face some catastrophe/hurricane/earthquake. Not much place or people to farm. They can have all the money in the world and no knowledge on how to survive.
Well done Saxony… now we have a russian backed right-extremist party with power…
€100 says Putler and billionnaires are involved in tricking labourers to impoverish themselves.
Well Elon definitely is, he keeps joining their rallies over video call to show his support and cheer them on.
tldr that website sucks
what’s the result and the long term implications?
the fascists likely didn’t get a super majority, but might be in that state’s government as major coalition partner anyway.
long term: political disorder within germany’s inter-state federal politics, possible political firewall (“Brandmauer”) against an entire federal state, possible conflict with NATO over logistics, Germany “being busy with itself” etc…
Didn’t their main candidate rule out doing any coalition to build a government, i.e. government only if the AfD has the absolute majority?
so more chaos then
which is fascism stage 1 :(
Actually it’s stage 3/4 of 5.
- Fringe: just a couple people meeting in a bar
- Normalization: go out and do protests, interviews, etc. People hate your ideas still, but you just keep saying them until they’re normal.
- Mainstream: established parties get scared, start talking the radical positions to get voters back, thereby proving that the positions are actually fine! So why vote for the cheap copy then, if you can have the original?
- Power: win elections, start dismantling some Democratic institutions.
- Gleichschaltung: take over total power via manufactured coup etc. Then dismantle anything that’s left.
It literally explained all of that in the article.
I don’t understand what sucked about the website, found it perfectly usable myself. I did reject all cookies when it asked though, so maybe that helped.
the immediate WE WANT YOUR DATA for one
You mean the legally-mandated GDPR cookie notice? That have existed for over a decade?
Have you visited the internet before yesterday?
The cookie notice isn’t legally mandated. It is legally mandated to ask users before collecting Data you don’t actually need.
Cookies are considered ‘personal data’ under GDPR and ePrivacy directive of the EU, requiring informed user consent for any non-essential cookie - what is non-essential is highly debated, which is why essentially any significant website in the EU errs on the side of caution and uses a cookie popup.
Name any EU news website that doesn’t use cookies in some form and have a cookie popup, I’ll consider my statement inaccurate.
It’s actually quite easy. If cookies are needed for the technical function of a service, they are justified. I don’t see how a website serving news articles would need to preserve state via cookies in order to function properly.
And no, doing “visitor statistics” is no valid reason nor an essential function.
The websites that do so liberally dump their entire cookie jar on their users, and spam them with this annoyance, are doing so, because they have ulterior motives, like collecting and selling user data to advertisers.
I know this is a bit of a spicy take and I hope it doesn’t age like milk, but this may not be the worst thing for Germany long-term. Far-right populist parties often do a bad job once they get into power. If they screw up running Saxony-Anhalt over the next three years it may put voters off voting for them in the next federal election.
Proportional system usually results in coalition government so the radicals are forced to mellow out. Keeping AfD out of coalition by firewall might do much more harm than good in the long run. This kind of result emboldens them to stay extremist.
History and research shows the opposite to be true. Coalition, talking, taking over their topics, anything legitimizing strengthens them. The only effective counter is a broad rejection across politics, society, including companies, religious institutions etc, and press.
Any examples? In our national parliament radical left mellowed out after joining coalition. It turns out talking big from opposition is cheap. I think current Italian government is also a case of this.
I’ve read an article previously. I don’t think I’ll be able to find it again.
I guess that’s the two possible roads. Integrate into the system with compromise, becoming mellow, or get legitimized by others to be strengthened as an extremist, eventually grabbing power.
The minimum information about the BSW while it would be the most relevant. After being treated badly by all other parties, e.g. no recount in the federal election to verify their narrow 5% miss, the other parties rely on them to form a government. Do they support it or will there be new elections?
Also no word about the narrowness of a potential disaster. Without the 5% for the BSW, the AfD was only lacking one seat for a majority. There was the risk of one CDU member changing sides to make an AfD government possible.
That election recount was decided by a court, not “other parties”, and the BSW leadership is openly advocating for cooperation with the AfD, so your argument about them preventing an AfD government holds little water.
BSW made a formal mistake. The other parties still could have ordered a recount.
BSW says no coalition but I think a government with BSW would be more social than a AfD government with one switching CDU member. Now they need 3.
Der BSW-Spitzenkandidat in Sachsen-Anhalt, Thomas Schulze, bezieht dagegen klar Stellung: “Die AfD ist für die Senkung von Steuern bei Reichen, ist für das traditionelle Rollenbild der Familie, die AfD ist klar für die Wiedereinführung der Wehrpflicht. Das sind alles Themen, die konträr zu unseren sind. Und deshalb brauchen wir uns über eine Koalition mit der AfD gar nicht weiter zu unterhalten.”
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/politik/afd-bsw-kooperation-landtagswahlen-100.html
Wow, I didn’t realize the bundestag’s election committee is a ‘court’ now. I naively assumed it was just other parties MPs protecting their seats.
No, but the federal constitutional court is 🙄
Dude, that tagesschau piece is from right after the election. There was no court ruling or hearing. After that, they dragged it out in the bundestag until late 2025, and this year it finally went to Karlsruhe, where, surprise, nothing has happened either.
Yes, that is the normal court process 🤷
