• Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org
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    24 hours ago

    Personally “I checked with Claude” invalidates anything you just said, even if it was properly researched and legitimately correct. As soon as you invoke the slopbots I lose any regard for your answer.

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      45 minutes ago

      This is the reason why you simply don’t tell anyone that you have used AI… it’s the same if you researched Wikipedia or your grandpas 1950s copy of Encyclopedia Britannica: It simply doesn’t matter where you got your information from as long as it is valid

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      20 hours ago

      It’s basically the “appeal to authority” fallacy only worse because Claude is neither an authority nor a provider of hard info.

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      21 hours ago

      Judging or dismissing a PERSON for using tools you don’t respect = valid.

      Saying you “invalidate” content that is “properly researched and legitimately correct” = what?

      I mean most people have no idea how to “properly research” - this has been true for centuries - sloppy research is not a new phenomenon. If something was “properly researched” why would you reject it?

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        2 hours ago

        Saying you “invalidate” content that is “properly researched and legitimately correct” = what?

        I read it as meaning the definition of the person producing the content of “properly researched and legitimately correct” rather than one’s own.

        Content produced by somebody who claims it has been “properly researched and legitimately correct” and that person thinks Claude is a proper research and validation tool, should be treated as invalid until proven otherwise.

        It’s like when a Junior level professional comes to you with something and says “I made sure this is all correct” - one can’t really trust that the thing is indeed “all correct”.

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          1 hour ago

          Right. They MEANT “if you mention Claude I don’t trust anything else you said”.

          They just didn’t SAY that.

          I’m not a fan of AI and don’t use it - however I can’t say I have found humans to be particularly clear, accurate or reliable either. Myself included… we all make mistakes. 🙂

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        11 hours ago

        As the one says above it is “Appeal to Authority” by adding Claude, or ChatrGPT for the more base level folks, from what I have seen.

        Somehow they assume that putting that in will somehow make their words more valid, but hearing it makes me question everything, and dismiss potential valid points made alongside it.

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        21 hours ago

        Because we don’t see all that research, we just see a comment where you said you asked the hallucination machine, so now, if I want to use anything you said, I have to go duplicate all that research before I can trust it.

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            17 hours ago

            Yeah, but the only source explicitly provided in this hypothetical is the hallucination machine.

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          16 hours ago

          So what you meant to say was “if you claim that you legitimately researched but you mention Claude - I will assume you did not”.

          Which is valid. But is not what you said.

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            15 hours ago

            More accurately, if you claim you used Claude, I will assume absolutely anything produced with it has a high chance of being rife with errors. If you provided citations for every last detail and then said Claude put it together, I wouldn’t trust it until I’ve personally verified the sources because not only will it hallucinate details, it’ll hallucinate sources. Anything produced with it is inherently untrustworthy.

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              10 hours ago

              To add on to what you said, i would trust the same thing more if it was just a human saying it was correct and implicitly staking their reputation on it, vs if the same person said, “i checked with Claude and it agreed.”

              To me, this means the person turned off their brain and is invoking Claude’s reputation, which also means i shouldn’t trust that person’s judgment either.

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      18 hours ago

      You guys are the worst. I’m now convinced all of you complaining have nothing going on. Every industry is using this shit. I was just watching this video of a big musician YouTuber using a vibe coded app that lets you create guitar tones by what you tell it. Kojima did an ad with Prada using it. You can be the curmudgeon all you fucking want but go do it to the big guys and quit fighting this bullshit culture war against low hanging fruit. You miserable fucks.