• juipeltje@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I was watching an lmg clips video about it last night, and personally found it very unreasonable how he said a game that supposedly worked without tinkering, actually needed tinkering because he had to use proton experimental and add a simple launch command. Maybe i’m an out of touch linux user but… what? Is he really saying it’s that difficult to select proton experimental from a gui dropdown menu, and then copy paste a simple command? There are probably games out there on native windows that require more tinkering than that. If you literally want no tinkering at all, you’re probably better of with a console, which is ironic considering linus is mainly a pc gamer.

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      14 days ago

      I think it’s fair to call out reviews that say:

      “This works out of the box, and requires no tinkering at all. Anyways, here’s what you’ll need to do to get it to work.”

      Having to tinker with settings and commands is literally not what “requires no tinkering” means.

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        14 days ago

        Oh yeah, i did agree with him that the review was silly by stating two opposites like that, but i did feel like he made it sound like the tinkering he ended up having to do was very involved, eventhough it just takes a few seconds, especially when a review like that has already figured it out for you.

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      14 days ago

      He’s a moron but yeah copying and pasting a command is beyond normies. They would want to get the command from LLMs for one thing, which would almost guarantee it wouldn’t work.

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        14 days ago

        Linus is not at all a moron. The trouble with him is that he plays the role of a boulevard journalist. So he constructs bs narratives to have something to talk about, even when it makes absolutely no sense to create these little plot points.

        It seems to have gotten to a point where he can not switch his style off. Seems to have gotten this way since he started LMG.

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          14 days ago

          The real problem with these videos is that Linus decides to try and emulate the average user, but then refuses to do even the smallest amount of troubleshooting “because the average user wouldn’t do it”. So it leads to a lot of moments where something doesn’t work out of the box, there’s a trivially simple solution that comes up as the first Google search result (if you ignore Gemini’s output), but he doesn’t bother and just throws his hands up (like the average user would, I guess).

          It just gets frustrating, because their Linux videos end up being entertainment first, and educational… fifth, maybe?

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      13 days ago

      it’s that difficult to select proton experimental from a gui dropdown menu, and then copy paste a simple command

      you still need to find the command, to know that you need to use proton experimental, to not be scared away by the name or the idea of going into options, to know how to open a context menu(something that so many people i have seen do not know), to know how to copy and paste something

      these are not difficult things to do, but they require effort and to learn how to do; the average person(that i have encountered) does not want to spend the time and energy to do those things. They want to just double click the game and for it to open

      i dont think assuming “without tinkering” means without changing the default settings is that unreasonable

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        13 days ago

        Like i said, i agree that it was stupid to put “no tinkering required” in a review, then proceeds to list tinkering steps. I just feel like the difficulty of said tinkering steps is overblown. Especially when you consider ingame graphics settings, pretty much every game requires tinkering regardless of OS, which is one of the reasons i find myself booting up my ps5 instead at times, and if you’re that allergic to tinkering or can’t do it, then console is your best bet. When we’re talking about these basic kinds of troubleshooting steps, i just don’t believe that’s a linux gaming issue, it’s a pc gaming issue.