@UniversalRecord@discuss.online I noticed that your sources are the front pages of several space agencies, but no actual articles. The image appears to be an AI generated image of VLA, when there are tons of images available to use. Can you provide some better sources and images in your articles if you’re going to claim the articles are based on fact?
We’re not even sure how to deal with intelligent life on Earth yet. Let’s figure that one out first, shall we?
And also humans who don’t bother developing their intelligence or behave better.
Stolen from the internet although I’ve seen a few versions:
Out in space two alien life forms are speaking with each other. The first alien says, “The dominant life forms on the earth planet have developed satellite-based nuclear weapons.” The second alien, who looks exactly like the first, asks, “Are they an emerging intelligence?” The first alien says, “I don’t think so, they have them aimed at themselves.”
If we discover intelligent extraterrestrial life, I’m sure the first question our current leaders will ask will be “how do we monetize this?”
It’s like WE are the Farengi from Star Trek
This article strikes me as AI written or at least partially. Each paragraph topic is so broad to the point of being pointless.
As a response to the general topic, iykyk:
“Do not answer. Do not answer. Do not answer.”
There’s also plenty of beautiful VLA images out there, yet they use this AI trash.
I agree with you that the article has no substance. I didn’t learn anything reading it…
I’m in the ‘don’t respond if they contact us’ camp. I’ve seen 3 Body Problem and read enough history to know what happens to the lower technological society.
I’d say answer just to see if the Dark Forest is valid. If it is, honestly they’re going to find us eventually anyway.
If they are interested in us, I doubt it’s to enslave us in any worse way then we already are. If they are interested in our raw materials for some reason they wouldn’t be looking by shouting out random introductions and will find us randomly. That’s my take anyway.
Definitely not to enslave. The path that the 3 Body Problem goes down is a science-based eldritch horror.
I haven’t read it yet, but the premise seems ludicrous from reading a synopsis. Like you probably have to pass god knows how many livable planets just to get here.
It’s not about finding habitat, but a large scale version of kill or be killed, or stay quiet and hope they don’t see you.
If you’ve read Lem’s Fiasco, then that’s the alternative scenario where “they” are the society lower technologically. It’s very well written and tragic.
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(Spoiler alert - the command of “us” loses their minds from arrogance and misunderstanding the motives of “them”, and the protagonist sent to the surface realizes what “they” are too late to signal that “they” shouldn’t be nuked, the end.)
So, Ender’s Game
I wonder how the conversation would go since the delay would be at best several years.
<Do you have any oil?
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<OMW, it seems like terrorists have infiltrated your government!
I was thinking about the quote “the rarest material in the universe is wood”. I feel like oil is rarer. I of course get the sentiment about ignoring the beauty on Earth, but realizing there’s probably less oil (and not being able to replace it) just put me in a bummed mood about the human condition.
“we’re not gonna make it, are we? Humans, I mean”
Oil, or at least equivalents would be pretty easy to make from raw elements. It’s just random chains and configurations of carbon with hydrogen, toss in some oxygen and nitrogen here and there with some other elements. Wood on the other hand is made from chains of This. It’s so complex and tough that it took 70 million years for something to evolve that could break it down. We think of plastic as lasting forever, but there’s already bacteria and fungi that can break it down, and it even breaks down in sunlight. So in comparison, after about 100 years, something evolved to break down plastic, but it took 700,000x as long for something to evolve to break down wood.
Bloody speed of light is just so slow…
We cannot even have meaningful conversations with our closest genetic relatives, the chimps. We studied the songs of the whales for decades and haven’t deciphered a single word (AFAIK). There is a lot of work to do, before we can even dream of talking to someone from outer space.
We have interpreted some stuff in broad strokes at least. Arguably whales and chimps also aren’t trying to help our studies much and may not have the same capability of communication depth we take for granted. But a picture dictionary along with audio/visual stuff made by a friendly civilization would certainly be possible and speed things up.
The harder part for an alien would presumably be the multiple different languages from a single planet…would be very interesting if alien life also had that.
If they’re even remotely like us, then they’ll have the same sort of story, which will entail multiple languages.
That is: To assume that a sapient, language-capable genus evolves in one place, then spreads across a planet from there.
Even if they all speak the same language when they begin the spread, the same sorts of factors will encourage semantic drift in different ways in different places, and over enough time, multiple languages are all-but inevitable.
It depends a lot on the planet geography and other factors. A global world order or empire is theoretically possible that could result in a majority using a single language. Think if the entire landmass is Asia and Ghengis khan lives a few years longer. There might still be other languages but the majority will have to have some way to communicate with each other especially with any travel based technology similar to ours.
If ever they use audio to communicate…
You never know, it might prompt us to realise that we are all on the same planet, in the vast emptiness of space, with no planet B within travelling range. It might make us stop our petty squabbling and work together to protect our home.
Lol. Nah.
DO NOT ANSWER
Don’t respond. You are a pathetic species. What’s the purpose to make an endless cash grab for 1% of the population? Talk about intelligence. Why is climate change a problem? Imagine trying to talk a private for profit trillion dollar industry in capitalism to just stop making money. Retarded civilization.
Oh yes well I’m sure that using slurs to describe them will definitely help.
