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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • While I agree that the current official stance on Israel is insane, it is not the majority opinion in Germany.

    Do we still have a problem with Antisemitism? Sadly yes, especially now since some people project the behaviour of Israel on German Jews which is absolutely crazy. But I would argue that the overwhelming majority has a positive or neutral view on Judaism.

    You sound like you have met too many crazy people from my country. But the loudest people are often not the majority. There are regular surveys on issues like these and I would classify your interpretation of German society as a fringe theory.




  • German here: Due to our own history, for specific cases, speech is much more restricted here compared to the UK (or the US until recently). These are things like inciting violence or “gruppenbezogene Menschenfeindlichkeit” (hostility towards / discrimination of a group of people).

    So if someone chants “Death, death to the IDF” they could be charged. It will not necessarily end in a conviction if it is considered an acceptable protest.

    So if you are expected to do something that might be a crime in Germany, it does not seem unreasonable to deny entry. However, the decision should be transparent to the impacted people and they should have the option to fight against that decision. This is the actual infuriating part of this story.

    But framing this as a “Free Speech Crackdown” is a very British/US take on our laws.

    If you want something to really complain about: The German government still considers Israel an ally and still supports them. We learnt a lot from our own history but somehow “Genocide is bad regardless of who is doing it” did not make the list.