no one is laughing, but keep hurling insults, you’re making my case for me

the CPC isn’t eating shit, they’re gonna all have great jobs at the places buying up pieces of this country in a couple years. And you’re asking me if I’m twelve

yes, you’re so unbothered that you keep coming back for more of my “unhinged” behaviour

Thank you for the link, I’ll take a look. But I don’t agree that my view on electoral politics is in any way “romantic” — I’m saying (probably elsewhere in this overall godforsaken discussion) that elections are only a small part of how the people can influence government. Which means I actually believe, in this case — and hear me out — that a Poilievre government would have been better than a Carney government, because the same people saying “LOL I bet Poilievre is annoyed” would be in the streets protesting this event if it were Poilievre hosting it. Poilievre simply would not have the societal permission structure to do any of the heinous shit Carney is doing!

The same goes for almost everything Carney has done, from cuts to the public sector to eviscerating climate goals. People would be up in arms about ALL of it if the person doing it was wearing the blue team’s shirt. Instead, half the country is like “welp, better than the other guy so can’t complain” instead of DOING something about what the guy IN POWER is doing. This is why I continually describe what’s happening as cult-like behaviour.

I’ve offered plenty of arguments, you’ve mostly just insulted me while saying you don’t owe me any responses

It’s not my talking point, it’s yours. You brought up Poilievre. I’m trying to figure out why it is that you are so upset by me calling this out. Why are you so mad about this?

why, so you can say that I “ran away” again?

so … how do you feel about that “forum to pitch global funds on Canadian assets”? Do you think it will be a good thing to sell resources and airports and seaports to investment funds, so that the value will flow out of the country? And is that worth one man’s ass being chapped?

Seems a lot like you did a little freudian slip and are now big mad, actually

I never said I wasn’t bothered. But clearly you aren’t done with berating me, why is that?

I haven’t “run away” anywhere, as you can see. And although I don’t believe you, I still maintain that if your first thought about Carney selling this country for parts is that Harper being there will annoy Poilievre, then you might want to re-evaluate your priorities. But go on, shoot the messenger a few more times

no one is “screaming” here. If you’re reading my comments that way then might I suggest taking a breather?

Why do you consider it a “confession” to call out Carney? I didn’t use the word first, you did.

The worst part is that so many people are still trying to use Poilievre as a way to justify this evil, instead of speaking up about how terrible Carney is

Poilievre, to the best of my knowledge, has not indicated he would re-open the abortion debate, ban Muslims or implement anti-trans legislation.

But the whole problem with this pile-on is that this event has nothing to do with Poilievre, he’s just the handy trope that Liberals self-soothe with when they have to face the fact that Carney is a monster.

Carney, who is in power, laughed at Trump “joking” about murdering crews of fishing boats with drones, cheered the start of the US-Israeli strikes on Iran, and refuses to condemn Israel’s genocide of Palestinians.

He did not push back against the US ending the ‘X’ gender marker on Nexus cards, which was called out by many trans folks as a failure to stand up for trans rights.

Regardless, slashing public services will always hit marginalized folks the hardest, so it’s a bit rich to imply that the PM who is making the largest cuts in modern history is somehow a friend to minorities and queer folks.

The fact that you’re saying people agree with me so I should be less “abrasive”, while simultaneously telling me I’m wrong about Carney, is also pretty telling.

https://idu.org/statement-35th-anniversary-international-democrat-union-by-stephen-harper-idu-chairman/

Here is Harper explicitly pushing Christianity in politics

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/hungary-lgbt-pride-anniversary/

and here is Harper-backed (and Trump-backed) Viktor Orban’s anti-LGBT politics

Does this change anything in terms of how you feel about Carney inviting Harper to this “summit”?

says the person who said I should be “institutionalized”

Go on then, what is the summit, and why is Harper there, in your view? Because he’s not there to “chap Poilivre’s ass”

It was a simple question. And I’m not sure why you feel like calling out Carney would be a “confession”. What an odd thing to say

Go on then, what do you think about Harper being invited to the sell-off party of Canadian assets? And do you believe that Carney rolling back virtually all Trudeau-era climate policies is the “standard-issue establishment” thing to do? Do you think that Carney’s moves to create a surveillance state, cut the public service to the bone, and integrate US and Canadian defence systems are going to expand democracy in this country? What would Carney have to do to lose your support?

This is the point where you say “I don’t have to answer any of your questions” and give away the fact that you have absolutely no desire to talk about issues but instead want to berate someone for daring to call out how obscene this “summit” is