Ah okay, we have different priorities that I didn’t initially consider, my bad. I personally no longer think it’s worth bothering trying to manage the right’s views. However, I do organizing in youth (~18-24) spaces and see a lot of people saying what boils down to “I want to organize, but keep to myself because what if I say something wrong and get canceled?” and it frustrates me since they regularly quote the phrase “tone policing” as they say it. It’s probably like a sleeper activation phrase to me at this point and I got annoyed.

There needs to be a diversity of tactics, so even though I won’t do it, I hope you and yours can successfully stop more people from falling into this trap.

I understand what you’re saying, but this is an issue that mostly exists between (don’t like this term much but can’t think of a better one) extremely terminally-online leftists who do not organize.

Going offline, this is generally just not an issue, the orgs filled with people who just argue over theory also don’t do much and shouldn’t be listened to. It’s a large movement and there are bound to be people who are unfortunately less effective.

I didn’t bother discussing how online leftist infighting affects real life, it’s not relevant compared to, say, the much realer issue of left-orgs blowing up because of, say, someone being outed as a sex pest or someone slandering someone they don’t like anymore (which isn’t an issue only relegated to the left, the right does this way more often)

US left is way too disorganized, but this isn’t because of “”“tone policing”“” (no you cannot say slurs) or debating the specifics of ideals (of course the right doesn’t do this, they have no ideals, don’t copy the child rapists).

It’s because of, among other things, a decades-long operation to systemically crack communities, down to there being basically no infrastructure to even meet up at except the library or church, and also to keep everyone so exhausted and distracted they don’t bother trying.

Solving problem #1 is harder but problem #2 involves communicating with people locally who you can actually work with (marginalized groups aren’t going to work with violent bigots, if this annoys you, talk to the bigots yourself) and joining local orgs to meet needs – rent/utilities assistance, building community toolboxes and fridges, generally moving people away from “barely surviving” so they can actually develop an interest in leftist ideals

There are no minors holding EU office, anything being done in the name of “kid-friendliness” is actually advertiser-friendly, minors are a convenient scapegoat with basically no political power who can be leveraged to curtail everyone’s rights