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  • no one in this thread has said anything denying european colonialism go reread the thread. if the only link you have is that the us wouldn’t exist without european settlers or is connected because of historical events that has no bearing on the US being there now. colonialism doesn’t force any form of current military action IN THE COUNTRY THE COLONIALISM STARTED IN. either pull your head out of your ass or go talk about this in the appropriate venue and maybe not a Ukraine community. you make a serious topic like colonialism look like a shitty tactic to avoid talking about the Ukraine war and America becoming more of an impediment to europe than an ally. If you still don’t get it you obviously are either willfully ignorant, or taking part in some kind of targeted AstroTurfing.





  • https://github.com/ziglang/zig/pull/24983 https://github.com/ziglang/zig/pull/25687 https://github.com/ziglang/zig/pull/25974 https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig/pulls/31154 read these a while ago in a different forum site. I think you are misreading/misinterpreting what I objected to. I said “like a bit of revisionism/justifying previous actions with a more palatable excuse other than fuck AI.” if this was too abstract, let me put it this way, no where in the coc or wiki or anywhere did they try and make this about growing a community or vetting contributors until recently. it was per that wiki not at all like that and easy to miss. my issue is not with banning ai contributions. it is with what i see as trying to change the tone to something palatable/reasonable after the fact. also i’ve tried to keep this free of personal attacks against you or anyone else. I don’t think i’m going to continue this. I made what i felt was a pretty mild critique based on a conversation i had on a different forum explained my critique, was then told go get a list of incidents which missed my point entirely of the whole changing narrative bit which was then partially acknowleged as “less professional” but “totally unambiguous”. obviously this isn’t about engaging on what my critique was, just winning arguments. I’ll save you the trouble. you win!



  • Like I said look at the PR’s and the way they are closed off. there were no explanations of this policy then just a “Fuck AI”. If there was a time to take the time to explain this, it was when the first one came through. They didn’t and that’s perfectly fine but circling back later and trying to make a justifiable reason after the fact is either a shitty thing to do to the random people that were trying to contribute and didn’t understand the stance or the stance was only “fuck AI”, then they felt there was a reason they should explain or had to come up with a more palatable explanation later. My thoughts on AI actually don’t matter at all. I have concerns the realistic expectations of this policy but there’s no rules all policies must be maximally realistic. like I said earlier I wish Zig all the best in there endeavor. it just seems like this coming out now after there attitude and lack of explanation is new policy masking as policy that always applied.


  • WizardGed@lemmy.catoOpen Source@lemmy.ml•Contributor Poker and Zig's AI Ban
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    6 months ago

    I mean, maybe I am wrong but this seems like a bit of revisionism/justifying previous actions with a more palatable excuse other than fuck AI. Especially when you go and look at the attitude and literal words from the devs in those PR’s (check their github for term AI in the closed PR’s). whether you agree with the sentiment or not the genie is out of the bottle, you can ban it as much as you want but it’s creeping into every part of nearly every project or its dependencies. I genuinely wish zig the best in their endeavour regardless of This bit of “revisionism”.