Th4tGuyII

Wow, a real win here…

Have to enable developer mode, have a miniature interview, restart and reauthenticate on my device, THEN still have to wait an entire day just to install an app that Google hasn’t approved.

That’s not just friction, that’s a brick wall!

Google can get stuffed if they expect me to believe that’s for user safety, considering the amount of blatant malware and adware is already on the Playstore, threatening their user’s device safety.

All of this is fairly obvious to someone not wearing a MAGA hat.

Productivity per person has increased since the 80’s, but wages have not followed - rather they have remained largely stagnant.

As such, the increased profits are instead going into an increasingly small amount of very rich people’s pockets

What a terribly bad faith argument. Not a single bit of that actually matters to the substance of this discussion.

My direct input on this keyboard is what ends up on the screen. My interpretation, my words, my creative decisions (or lack thereof), and my mistakes.

You AI is instructed by you. It takes your words and interprets them according to its own training data. It uses its own words, its creative decisions, and makes its own mistakes.

If you can’t see the difference between those two things, and why someone might think a person having done the latter but claiming the former might be seen as insulting, then there’s no point in having this discussion.

As I said in my reply directly to you, I don’t have an issue with vibe-coding itself.

And I do understand that our interactions of the world are mediated by tools, but those tools are things we use to assist in our direct input.

… And even independent tools like autocompletion requires me to actually type the words I intend to use. I have a direct input on what the autocompletion does, because its completing my words, not typing them for me.

Prompting an AI to do something isn’t actually doing the thing, it’s managing another entity that does the thing for you. It’s a tool, but it’s a tool that thinks entirely for itself.

So when vibe-coders say the “coded” something the AI produced, or vibe-artists say they “drew” something an AI generated, it grinds my gears - because its not the same, and will never be.

If you code enough, if you draw enough, you get better at it. If you prompt an AI enough, you don’t get better at either of those things - you just get better at prompting the AI.

Yes, because I directly typed on that keyboard. My fingers pressed each and every key to make each and every letter of this text you’re reading.

The keyboard is a tool to interface with a computer, in the same way you need a hammer to push a nail, a screwdriver to drive a screw, or a knife cuts through things.

I didn’t ask somebody else to go hammer the nail, screw the screw, or cut the thing then take credit for doing the thing I didn’t do.

Managing a process isn’t the same as doing the process, and in the same way, prompting an AI to make code for you isn’t the same as actually making that code, and never will be.

Edit:

I should say I don’t actually have anything against Vibe-coding itself, apart from the environmental implications of AI, and for personal projects I imagine it’s probably quite useful.

What grinds my gears is when people say “they” coded something, knowing full well they didn’t write a single line of code. It’s like Vibe-artists saying they “drew” something DALI made.

Its fine to do it, but just admit that’s what you did, rather than trying to take credit for a thing you didn’t do.

tinkerer built an app to control their own device with a PlayStation controller.

who used Claude Code to reverse engineer the protocol

Did they build it though? Sounds like vibe-coding to me

the problem does not lie in the encryption used by the robot vacuum when communicating with its server, but that all the data is stored in plain text and can easily be read by anyone who gains access to the server.

Having said that, this is atrocious!

What’s the point in encrypting user data in transit if you’re just gonna leave it unencrypted at rest??

If you’re going to store user data, at least have the decency to make sure its protected against malicious actors.

It’s very lucky that the person who discovered it was a vibe-coding good Samaritan, rather than somebody willing to exploit it for money

Man, not a good look for a company who boasts about the repairability of their phones to hide key software repair tools behind an arbitrary paywall - especially when required because of their own faulty update via their official channels.

This is why I never recommend updating devices straight away. Give time for the dust to settle and major faults/vulnerabilities to be ironed out first.