OccamsTeapot

Good heavens! I’m starting to think there’s something rotten in this “steal people’s work, regurgitate it back at them at great environmental cost and if they don’t like it, force it down their throats at every opportunity” industry

Please enlighten us

Now - if there is video or photos like we saw of Urban Meyer in American. Then you are caught red handed.

Seems like there is.

Jurors were shown a slowed-down version of CCTV footage of Spencer unsteady on his feet that night and of the moments he approached the women.

Given that he “approached” them from behind and grabbed their boobs. Then he was kicked out of the club. So yeah, it’s not drummed up noise.

That is the common argument, yeah.

Just going to add a bit of data: NYTS

7.1% of high school students report “current use” (meaning in the last 30 days), of those, 27.5% use daily. Works out to about 1.95% of high schoolers vaping daily. Lower for middle school. Fruit flavors are most popular (which is always true for adults too).

Cigarette smoking is down. Vaping is also down. Overall tobacco use is down.

Unfortunately no reporting on the % using nicotine there.

Honestly seems, like, pretty fine? Do you know what the youth smoking rate was prior to vapes being a thing?

Here: 2011 data

15.8%!! Of high schoolers smoked cigarettes.

Then one day your mate says “hey try this one! It tastes just like candy floss!” But surprise 20mg you’re hooked for life fool!

I think you’re overstating the addictiveness here. Going from 0 to 20 mg would not be super pleasant - more nicotine makes it harsher on your throat - and it isn’t that addictive. I’m sure you know people who smoked a few cigarettes without getting hooked, right? Even 20 mg vapes don’t give you blood nicotine levels as high as smoking.

I haven’t checked recently but I think your experience there doesn’t align with the statistics. Although for these people obviously yeah, vaping is dumb

Fair!

Just imagine being addicted to nicotine but not wanting to die

Come, friendly data centres, and burn up Slough. It isn’t fit for humans now