Framework computers aren’t really targeted at the average consumer.
It makes sense that the kind of people who value hardware which they can easily and freely maintain and upgrade also value software which they can easily and freely maintain and upgrade.
For sure Linux being a free option vs Windows being a paid for one also helps.
Quite well aware, as in, more aware than I want to be lol - but why would these be buying Framework tho? Overlap of folks wanting a Framework laptop at orgs forced to use (only) Windows, at orgs willing to then buy Framework laptops seems real small. And I mean, buying it with Windows installed does suggest what you’re saying.
So hey, I’m wrong about a lot, such is life lol, maybe it makes sense.
I can’t tell you for sure, but Framework does have a business team and they seem to support automatic onboarding with Intune Autopilot too. One usecase that came into my mind is that when employees demand a new computer because theirs feel slow the tech can just drop in the board into a new chassis, reinstall the OS and the marketing guy is none the wiser. Plus, frameworks are cheaper in the long run.
We order DIY Framework 13 for work. Assemble them ourselves, install Windows and import it into Intune.
If we could, we would use them with Linux.
Why buy Framework? The 13 price is pretty much on par with other laptops. We get easily replaceable ports and people get to choose exactly which ports they want. Easy repairs and instead of “throwing out” the laptop, it can get an upgrade. Sustainability.
I’m also halfway trying to talk myself into taking the plunge (admittedly not with windows, I spent a good bit of my career locked into it and I’m done lol).
You seem open to share some details, by which I mean, I feel less potentially rude to ask - care to share how long you’ve been working with em (the Frameworks)? And any details therein, how it’s been, any frustrations?
Longevity matters a lot to me, at least in the medium term (and it’s not lost that me buying their ish would help them do that in a tiny way lol), so I’m gun-shy. My current approach is simply to buy old business class Dell things for my household, there’s ~no chance I’ll find myself unable to buy parts cheaply. I do also treasure giving old machines further life, very sustainable, feels good.
Whatcha think? Time for me to upgrade my approach (slowly 😅), or best to wait it out a bit and see what develops?
The first few Framework laptops were bought back in 2024. About 30 people have a Framework now, while the rest has Lenovo’s.
Nothing but issues with Lenovo. They even have a built-in reset button on the bottom for when they freeze and not even the power button works… They are between 2-4 years old. The USB-C ports in all of them are trash.
No issues with any Framework’s so far, except one had an issue with connecting to a TV through a Lenovo dock.
Though one would expect such technically inclined users to install the OS themselves. When I bought my 16 I bought “no OS” because while Fedora (which I knew would be installed) was an option I wanted FDE and so I chose to install it myself. It’s possible many of these were first time linux users who wanted the savings but also the ease of buying with a pre-installed OS.
Framework computers aren’t really targeted at the average consumer.
It makes sense that the kind of people who value hardware which they can easily and freely maintain and upgrade also value software which they can easily and freely maintain and upgrade.
For sure Linux being a free option vs Windows being a paid for one also helps.
Tbh the shocker for me was people buying Framework laptops with Windows on them at all…? Wut?
Businesses that have to be complaint with industry standards are unfortunately stuck using Win or MacOS
Quite well aware, as in, more aware than I want to be lol - but why would these be buying Framework tho? Overlap of folks wanting a Framework laptop at orgs forced to use (only) Windows, at orgs willing to then buy Framework laptops seems real small. And I mean, buying it with Windows installed does suggest what you’re saying.
So hey, I’m wrong about a lot, such is life lol, maybe it makes sense.
I can’t tell you for sure, but Framework does have a business team and they seem to support automatic onboarding with Intune Autopilot too. One usecase that came into my mind is that when employees demand a new computer because theirs feel slow the tech can just drop in the board into a new chassis, reinstall the OS and the marketing guy is none the wiser. Plus, frameworks are cheaper in the long run.
Hell yeah.
We order DIY Framework 13 for work. Assemble them ourselves, install Windows and import it into Intune.
If we could, we would use them with Linux.
Why buy Framework? The 13 price is pretty much on par with other laptops. We get easily replaceable ports and people get to choose exactly which ports they want. Easy repairs and instead of “throwing out” the laptop, it can get an upgrade. Sustainability.
I’m also halfway trying to talk myself into taking the plunge (admittedly not with windows, I spent a good bit of my career locked into it and I’m done lol).
You seem open to share some details, by which I mean, I feel less potentially rude to ask - care to share how long you’ve been working with em (the Frameworks)? And any details therein, how it’s been, any frustrations?
Longevity matters a lot to me, at least in the medium term (and it’s not lost that me buying their ish would help them do that in a tiny way lol), so I’m gun-shy. My current approach is simply to buy old business class Dell things for my household, there’s ~no chance I’ll find myself unable to buy parts cheaply. I do also treasure giving old machines further life, very sustainable, feels good.
Whatcha think? Time for me to upgrade my approach (slowly 😅), or best to wait it out a bit and see what develops?
The first few Framework laptops were bought back in 2024. About 30 people have a Framework now, while the rest has Lenovo’s.
Nothing but issues with Lenovo. They even have a built-in reset button on the bottom for when they freeze and not even the power button works… They are between 2-4 years old. The USB-C ports in all of them are trash.
No issues with any Framework’s so far, except one had an issue with connecting to a TV through a Lenovo dock.
Thanks!
That’s rad, thanks for filling me in!
Though one would expect such technically inclined users to install the OS themselves. When I bought my 16 I bought “no OS” because while Fedora (which I knew would be installed) was an option I wanted FDE and so I chose to install it myself. It’s possible many of these were first time linux users who wanted the savings but also the ease of buying with a pre-installed OS.