Residents across the state of Washington breathed a sigh of relief this week after the passage of Initiative 638 guaranteed girls are finally safe now that they’re required to show an adult their vagina in order to play school sports.
“Thanks to I-638, all my 12-year-old daughter has to do now to be spared the trauma of losing 5th place to a trans girl in track is show her vagina to an adult,” said local father Hank Hanson. “I love that under this new law, not even a birth certificate is enough for a girl to prove her gender because that deprives children of the opportunity to proudly show their reproductive organs to an adult while I stand in the room and watch to add that extra feeling of comfort and safety.”
Girls who play sports from middle school on up thanked the 1.5 million adults who went so out of their way to make minors living in a country run by a pedophile feel that much more seen.
“Nothing makes me feel safer and more excited to play sports quite like being forced to spread my legs for an adult who’s in at least their 30s,” said 13-year-old soccer player Brittney Rigby. “I don’t know why anyone thought passage of this law might deter girls from playing sports at all. What kind of 7th grader isn’t excited to let an adult they don’t know get a good look at her privates? Pretty routine middle school physical stuff, I’ve heard.”
At press time, boys who play school sports were still sadly completely unsafe due to not being forced to show an adult their penises.
You cannot feel ovaries from the vagina. You can “see” ovaries through the vagina wall if you get a transvaginal ultrasound, but you cannot feel them by hand or with any tool. Ultrasound is the only way to confirm an ovary is present/where the ovary is. As to what any given doctor will consider “good enough” to determine their sex is up for debate, medical paperwork, visual inspection, physical inspection of the vulva… who knows the initiative was incredibly vague on this point because they wanted plausible deniability. That said I can promise you, no doctor anywhere is feeling anyone’s ovaries through their vaginal wall, it’s physically not possible.
It’s clearly a bill to harm the trans community outright and disenfranchise and traumatize little girls trying to play sports as a “bonus” it’s an outrageous and disgusting thing that will only and explicitly hurt kids and I’m ashamed of my state for passing it.
You can absolutely feel the ovaries through the lower abdomen, if the girl/woman is thin.
Source: used to be thin, have always kept up with doctors appointments. Not exactly thin now but still thin enough to be able to have ovaries located through palpation.
The rest of what you have to say is right.
Hm I’m probably wrong, I’ll amend my comment. I’ve certainly had doctors press my lower abdomen from the exterior while feeling from inside and tell me they were checking my ovaries, etc.
This person is wrong–you can feel ovaries via external palpation as long as there isn’t a significant fat pad in the area (I assume there are also less common reasons to be unable to feel them this way that I’m not familiar with as well since ever body is different).
Sure, but surely it does both, if they had even thought of making it a requirement back then, so surely it would do both now.
TIL, been a long time since I was a kid. Cool I guess, so at what age are kids required to drop trou at the doctor these days, never unless there’s a specific issue? Can they conceivably get all the way to ogbyn-age (idk what that would be) or 45 for a prostate exam?
Surely it doesn’t “require” that, there has to be another way. (I’m assuming you mean they require it here, but I mean there’s gotta be another way in existence).
Not that they should, I’m just surprised to learn they don’t already do it (even if for other reasons) anymore.
Re-read that, because evidentially you mistook it.
What does that have to do with getting naked at the doctor for regular tests? I’m wondering what the current age for that is, since you seem to be aware, and I’m only aware of my childhood era’s practices.
Well digital ovary manipulation and expensive tests doesn’t seem like an exhaustive list, but to be fair everything at the doctor is expensive, depending on country.
What regular tests are you undergoing that require being fully naked? Any child old enough to use the bathroom on their own can pee in a cup, why would anything else be required unless something is wrong/out of the ordinary?
Well back in the day it was hernias, apparently still to this day it’s after first menstruation for women which can be as young as 10-11 (according to someone here who knows how to answer questions instead of complain that people asked them… unlike some people…), so there’s one right there.
Here https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/physical-examination-adolescent-male
That’s why they USED to do it (apparently) and (according to one poster here) they don’t anymore, but that’s apparently “why,” straight from the President of Doctors Johns Hopkins himself. Hopefully that answers your questions.
Regarding #2, the age to start seeing a gynecologist is after the first menstruation cycle or after first sexual activity or if there are worrying symptoms. So this can start as early as ten or eleven but is more commonly about fourteen or fifteen.
Why should a kid ever have to show a doctor their penis unless there is an issue? I’m 35 and have never shown a doctor my penis. Why is that something that either you or the doctor would want to do?
Well in case you haven’t been reading, back in the day they used to do it to EVERY SINGLE BOY CHILD and apparently they don’t now, I have come to learn, so that’s “why” I’m asking. Try and keep up!
I have been reading, which is why I know you haven’t seemed to approach this conversation with a desire to learn, more of an attitude of “we had to do it so who cares if they have to too”. Which I’m trying to point out, it was absurd that you had to do it, and it’s absurd to expect female children to undergo these inspections as well, that are very different from a gynecological exam performed by a trusted doctor in a medical office. Go ahead and take a look at how your comments were received and maybe do some introspection on the way that you come across.
Back in my day the physicals were also performed by a “trusted” (well I don’t trust doctors for shit, personally, but if you do then fine) doctor in a medical office as well. Are you telling me that isn’t the case here, that these kids are getting examined by Coach Dingus instead of being sent to Dr. Doofus for the exam? Because that would be very different indeed.
And frankly idk how absurd it was, kids can get tumors, I did have a hernia that they caught in one of those checks (I can only assume, I was too young for memories, but still), still have the scar. I’m sure they’ve figured out a better way through tech, maybe they did just stop caring, but I’ll never know because whatsyourname says I’m not allowed to ask such questions.
+3 on the one above, as if I care. Quit living your life for the approval of internet strangers, the good boy points don’t even mean anything here, this isn’t reddit.
I don’t give a shit about votes, I never vote on comments. t’s not about the approval of strangers, it’s about not being a dick to your fellow humans. But go ahead, you do you.
Ahh yes, the foremost trait of the asshole: curiosity. Go bother someone else.