• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    11 days ago

    It’s clear that if you’re not even willing to get your propaganda stories straight when repeating lies already retracted by the sourced that shared them, you are actively choosing not to confront your own propagandizing.

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        11 days ago

        Amazing comeback. I’m well aware that liberal institutions despise the DPRK, and that countries like the US regularly manufacture mass propaganda against it. You’re more than free to check the resources I’ve already linked.

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          10 days ago

          What, the one essay defending tankies? No thank you, I have better things to do with my life, like putting my balls in a blender.

          Seriously. Defending North Fucking Korea is bad. Saying they have a great government is even worse.

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            10 days ago

            I’m sorry, but I refuse to be so ignorant about a country that I mix up two publicly retracted propaganda stories into one, while telling the person that actually digs into these stories and researches the country that they are bad. It’s naked ignorance on your part mixed with chauvanism. I already said I have broadly the same positions as the Communist Party of Cuba and Black Panther Party on the DPRK, if that doesn’t cause you to reconsider your preconceived notions then I don’t know what will.

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              10 days ago

              I’m sorry, but I refuse to be so ignorant about a country that I mix up two publicly retracted propaganda stories into one

              Oh no, I mixed up one off the cuff point from 13 years ago. Kim didn’t have his uncle killed with an aircraft gun, he had him killed via a firing squad.

              I live in a country with (allegedly) free speech. You’re welcome to post overwhelming firsthand accounts of how great NK is, because clearly that media either doesn’t exist, or doesn’t get to most people. Probably a consequence of NK not having free speech and banning almost all foreign media. Hell, why don’t you go visit them and get those accounts yourself? You’ll probably come back with better mental function than a typical tankie.

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                10 days ago

                The point here is that you care so little for truth is that you don’t even bother researching basic facts that even western legacy media reports on. You terminate your own thoughts and refuse anything that might challenge how you see the world. Complaining about my mental function when you are so efficient at dogmatically upholding western atrocity propaganda that even western media has retracted is hypocricy. Weren’t you complaining that I was hypocritical earlier, too? Sounds like projection.

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                  10 days ago

                  The point here is I’m not going to waste my time digging though muck to find the exact media you want me to find. You can fucking post it, or you can shut the fuck up about it.

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                    10 days ago

                    I already did. Here it is again:

                    The DPRK is even more egregiously slandered. The story you are referencing is the idea that Kim Jong Un’s uncle was executed by 120 dogs, which was disproven as originating in a Chinese satirical column. There was an entirely different official alleged to have been executed by antiaircraft gun, which, shocker, was also retracted. People believe the wildest claims about the DPRK, yet so many allegations of wild executions are walked out that socialists joke about “juche necromancy.”

                    In any case, yes, both the PRC and DPRK are more comprehensively democratic than the US, and for more on that I recommend professor Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Both have unique forms of democratic decision making that more comprehensively involve the whole of society in guiding how the country is run.

                    I know I’m being harsh, but it’s because I do genuinely believe you can move from being a closed-minded chauvanist to someone that thinks critically.