and that to get there we need an organized, mass socialist party, mass class consciousness among the working class
How’s that going?
Have you considered that, especially in a federal election such as for the presidency, the most intelligent option is to vote for the lesser of the two evils guaranteed to win while working toward your high in the sky objectives of a mass socialist party and class consciousness? Or do your fee fees take over the logic center of your brain?
Of course I’ve considered that before, it’s also wrong. Perpetuating support for genocidal imperialist parties by trapping people into electoralism dissuades people from actually getting organized. For example, I’d be shocked if it turned out you were a member of a revolutionary socialist party, considering how much stress you put on people backing the genocidal imperialist Democrats. If you vote Democrat but you actually do organize, then I have no qualms with that, but people that fixate on voting as their primary means of engaging politically rarely actually organize.
I know you think I’m endlessly annoying, but at the end of the day I do believe you have the capacity to change, to grow, and to become a socialist too. You’re even likely to be sympathetic to socialism right now, meaning we just disagree on the strategy and tactics necessary to get there. Why not meet me in the middle and vote Dem while also joining a socialist org as a periphery member? Both Freedom Road Socialist Organization and the Party for Socialism and Liberation have two tiers of membership, periphery membership which is low commitment in time and money, and cadre membership, which requires significant time and money. Why not start there?
How’s that going?
Have you considered that, especially in a federal election such as for the presidency, the most intelligent option is to vote for the lesser of the two evils guaranteed to win while working toward your high in the sky objectives of a mass socialist party and class consciousness? Or do your fee fees take over the logic center of your brain?
Of course I’ve considered that before, it’s also wrong. Perpetuating support for genocidal imperialist parties by trapping people into electoralism dissuades people from actually getting organized. For example, I’d be shocked if it turned out you were a member of a revolutionary socialist party, considering how much stress you put on people backing the genocidal imperialist Democrats. If you vote Democrat but you actually do organize, then I have no qualms with that, but people that fixate on voting as their primary means of engaging politically rarely actually organize.
I know you think I’m endlessly annoying, but at the end of the day I do believe you have the capacity to change, to grow, and to become a socialist too. You’re even likely to be sympathetic to socialism right now, meaning we just disagree on the strategy and tactics necessary to get there. Why not meet me in the middle and vote Dem while also joining a socialist org as a periphery member? Both Freedom Road Socialist Organization and the Party for Socialism and Liberation have two tiers of membership, periphery membership which is low commitment in time and money, and cadre membership, which requires significant time and money. Why not start there?