• dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    Of course you don’t. Libs never give a fuck, until it affects them. When its marginalized people, or foreigners, Libs are out to brunch. But when Imperialsm turns to Fascism, suddenly Libs start whining like a bunch of babies.

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      4 days ago

      Yeah, and tankie shitnuggets can’t even rise to that level of moral duplicity on their best fucking day.

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        4 days ago

        You think that the people who constantly support foreigners and marginalized people… don’t give a fuck about foreigners and marginalized people?

        And yet I see Libs openly throwing those groups under the bus at the first opportunity.

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        4 days ago

        What is it that you think tankies do? Historically, tankies formed the Black Panther Party, Party for Socialism and Liberation, and the CPUSA (before they turned reformist). The tankies are regularly on the streets, donating time and money to building a better world.

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          What is it that you think tankies do?

          Annoy the living shit out of every person in their general vicinity?

          Say the dumbest shit imaginable on a consistent basis?

          Talk the talk but never walk the walk?

          Cry lots?

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              4 days ago

              And you should stop simping for authoritarian imperialists regimes like Russia and China.

              They are objectively worse places to live in than the west.

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                I don’t think it would be nice to live in Russia, but it would be nicer to live in China, unless you’re one of the top 1%, objectively. Lower homelessness, climbing wages year over year, no absolute poverty, mass infrastructure, and a more democratic system.

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            4 days ago

            Do you think the groups I mentioned aren’t tankies, or do you think the majority of people you would describe as tankies aren’t doing what they do?

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              4 days ago

              CPUSA (before they turned reformist)

              Answered your own fucking question before you even asked it.

              Marxist ideology doesn’t not make one a tankie. Shitposting online to convince people not to pull the levers of power in front of them does.

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                4 days ago

                I love watching Libs continue to make up arguments that weren’t made so that they can avoid the questions asked of them.

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                  Might want to find another thread to furiously jack it over. I pretty explicitly answered the question with their own previous statement.

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                Pretending that choosing between two genocidal imperialist parties is a path to working class power is incompatible with Marxism, though. It would still be incorrect to think electing a socialist party would result in socialism, but it’s astronomically incorrect to think picking between genocidal imperialist parties is a meaningful path to worker liberation.

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          Lol, you think tankies do anything but cheer on the crushing of students with military vehicles and encourage channeling dissent into inaction and subjugation. What a bunch of fucking losers.

          Edit: if you keep reading, Cowbee here goes HAM on not just defending, but promoting the human rights and democratic process of North Korea, just so you know the level of disingenuous propaganda they are peddling.

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            Do you think the groups I mentioned aren’t tankies, or do you think the majority of people you would describe as tankies aren’t doing what they do? Are you calling the Black Panther Party “a bunch of fucking losers,” or just those that support them?

            Edit: for what it’s worth, absolutely everything I have said to you is fully genuine, even when you didn’t even give enough of a shit to the point that you combined 2 separate retracted stories into one brand new falsehood.

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              4 days ago

              Marxist ideology doesn’t not make one a tankie. Shitposting online to convince people not to pull the levers of power in front of them does.

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                Pretending that choosing between two genocidal imperialist parties is a path to working class power is incompatible with Marxism, though. It would still be incorrect to think electing a socialist party would result in socialism, but it’s astronomically incorrect to think picking between genocidal imperialist parties is a meaningful path to worker liberation.

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                  Don’t pretend tankies want “a meaningful path to worker liberation.” I’ve seen the regimes they idolize.

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                    4 days ago

                    I’m not pretending anything here, I am a socialist, I pay dues. The Black Panther Party supported Vietnam, China, the DPRK, and more:

                    The fact that the socialist left has historically been revolutionary, and supported revolutionary worker governments, is not at all opposed with wanting a meaningful path to worker liberation. To dedicate your time and money to studying theory and history, to organizing in trade unions and tenant unions, to spreading revolutionary consciousness, to party building and cadre training, is to have a firm belief in the necessity of rolling up your sleeves to build a better world.

                    You can disagree with the Marxist left all you want, but to say that we do not want a meaningful path to worker liberation is absurd and not at all reflected in reality.

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                  You .ml losers ever going to shut the fuck up and start a revolution?

                  So much whining about the imperialist parties. So little actual action to do something about it.

                  Put down the keyboard. Go outside. Start a revolution.

                  Or stop talking.

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                    I organize with a revolutionary socialist party. Revolution isn’t something you randomly start, it happens when there’s a broad, well-organized and popular socialist party, a class conscious working class, and a capitalist class that is too fractured to unite against the working class. The first two are actionable, we need to grow socialist parties and educate the rest of our class. The latter is made inevitable by capitalism itself.