So, OS-level age-gating is going federal, which will effectively kill your rights to device ownership and what’s left of free speech and expression.

Enjoy your free speech while you still have it because this is a clear attempt to erase that right.

SOPA never died, it just went into hiding until time to reemerge, and now’s that time, this is basically SOPA in a save the kids trenchcoat.

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      With your attitude, nobody would be doing anything. You’re worse than the people causing these problems - you’re just a black hole of negativity here looking to shit on your fellow workers.

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        . . . . trump got two terms. what tf is america doing about the trump cancer?

        ah. Nothing at all.

        do something

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      They storm the capital building.

      There’s plenty of resistance and progressive movements locally and nationally - you just tend not to hear about them unless you’re the sort of person who gets involved

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      My guy, people have been out in the streets ripping people out of the hands of ice

      I get its fun to be cynical in the current moment but americans have absolutely been doing shit. I know, because there are folks in my community organizing, and they’re doing so in the image of other community organizing efforts across the country

      If you’re reading this go find a way to get involved IRL. Meet your neighbors. Join food not bombs or a soup kitchen. Get involved in ice watch. Find your local DSA or PSL chapter and see if they’re people there and projects that you feel like you can build with. See if you have a local SRA chapter. See if your area has any tool libraries or community gardens you can participate in. Lots of states have a stop cop city, or stop detention centers project, go see if your area has one you can get involved with. People only do shit if people like YOU decide its worth doing

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        In the land of “stay strapped or get clapped” your idea of resistance is joining a soup kitchen or tool library lol

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          The SRA I mentioned is the socialist rifle association. I also mentioned ice watch, and stop cop city and stop detention center projects. The point was to suggest a number of things that would include some ways to get involved for a wide variety of people, people gotta start somwhere and folks have different risk tolerances

          Kindly, did you think at all before you typed that? Kinda disappointed that 5 people chose to upvote that, what are you talking about?

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            Just curious, what exactly do you mean by SRA in context of this thread?

            I don’t necessarily think joining some sort of community/mutual aid organization is a bad thing. Based on research of global protest movements (disclaimer: I am not well versed on this topic outside of my region, albeit there is a lot to cover in our region), generally the highest success rates are for mass scale movements where the regime starts to feel they are losing control. Security services rank and file start to wonder if the leadership are going to bail on them and whether it is worth it to risk their lives fighting their own fellow citizens.

            One way to get to that point is a strong network of community organizations that are not subject to the regime political structures (I would include the US Democratic party in this category) or malign business community influence (definitely almost all large US corporations who are part of the oligarchic regime and also giant list of wannabe oligarch types).

            The often cited number is 10% of the population engaging in regular protests (with the implication being that a much larger % of the working age population supports the goals of the protest movement). Although from memory, the researchers did say that a single % doesn’t really account for a given “situation on the ground”, more of a general trend. Which makes a lot of sense.

            Violent resistance was cited as having mixed results for a variety of reasons and tended to have much more unpredictable and drawn out dynamics.

            From my time living the US, I also didn’t find the local polemics around gun ownership to be convincing or productive (i.e. irrespective of your position on gun ownership, a reasonable argument can be made that in the US context there are other factors at play with respect to the perceptions around gun ownership).

            Then there is the practical consideration. What has the US implementation of gun ownership achieved in terms of specifics?

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          It’s a step that contributes which is better than nothing, though of course this is supplementary and more is needed

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            It’s an action that accomplishes nothing towards the stated goals but makes the person feel good about themselves.

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              No one can fight fascism when theyre worried about their immediate tangible needs. No one can fight much of anything when theyre worried about their immediate needs.

              Its really hard to organize with people if you dont have ways of being connected to them. Its hard to have the needed trust. Its hard to network and know the right folks to have a connection the the right person when you need them. All sorts of community service help attend to these functional needs.

              If you can’t see value in feeding folks in your community I’m glad you’re not part of mine, you sound like a POS.

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                Feed people is great, pretending its some kind of ‘resistance’ is laughable.

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              Soup kitchens contribute to mutual aid setups, which are vital for subsistence and resistance movements against established institutions.

              It is directly something that accomplishes movement towards stated goals.

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                Let me know when a soup kitchen topples a government institution. Until then all I see is cringe larping as a resistance movement.

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                  Preach.

                  Sick of watching Americans do performative nonsense and pretend like they’re “fighting.”

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              You are dead right and you’re being downvoted by white liberals who can’t bear to entertain the idea that they might be part of the problem.

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            My expectation is that Americans will continue getting fucked by their government because the only ones interested in ‘resistance’ will ladle at a soup kitchen about it

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              My brother in Christ look up the aforementioned SRA. You look like an idiot.

              Not even gonna engage with the argument that feeding folks in your community isnt valuable resistance. Thats dumb as fuck.

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                  Duckduckgo having crap results doesnt really change my point that I included several options compatible with America being a “stay strapped or get clapped place”, or substantiate the point that my only suggestion was a soup kitchen (which to be clear, is absolutely valuable praxis that improves our abilities to work together on bigger issues). I dont think it even really matters if its a huge important organization, I just want people to have options put in front of them so people start to consider what they can be doing, and theres all kinds of things people can do to contribute. And if you feel thats important, Ice watch orgs (siembra where I live, who’s also a workers rights org) are pretty big, the stop detention centers NC signal is pretty big, and thats just the scale of what’s local to me. The stop cop city project in atlanta has been pretty massive, but I’m not sure how things are doing after their more recent legal troubles, I’m not in Atlanta.

                  My frustration with them comes from the fact that they were ignorant about what I said and still responded with some bullshit in various places in this thread. There are people in my community whos families dont know where they ended up. People I love are afraid for their saftey.

                  And its the 2nd result on both google and brave search, kagi put it like 7th or eighth. Duckduckgo and the bing results it pulls from are just frequently not great. Google pulled it up even when signed out or in cromite so its not just search personalization

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                How dare I not be familiar with every single local acronym you lot have.

                Anyway let me know when a soup kitchen or tool library topple anything with your resistance larp

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                  There are people missing from my community. Folks I love are afraid theyre unsafe. But being an asshole about it on the internet from far away seems more fun to you I guess.

                  You seem like a piece of shit, and you’re transparently arguing in bad faith if you’re gonna ignore 50% of what I said just to mock me for suggestions that people get involved in their community

                  I hope you’re able to figure out how to grow as a person, take care.

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              Oops, I used the wrong word. What degree of resistance would you like to see?

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      Generally you’re correct, but the string of warehouse fires over the past week all across the country has me hopeful that folks are finally hitting the long long long long long overdue breaking point.

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        I’m at the point where I don’t allow myself to get my hopes up for American news anymore.

        That being said, the warehouse fires were a pleasant surprise that exceeded my expectations.

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          I’m similarly inclined from experience but before my favorite sports team won back to back championships they let me down and broke my heart for 30 years. I guess I’m a glutton for disappointment but I want to be hopwful

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            Are there any media outlets resisting? I think you’re right. Hearing of growing resistance does make people less alone in their thinking and; grow action. But they need to hear in the first place.

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            Yep, literally only saw social media and maybe a single local news outlet reporting on it that day, I actually had to dig a little to figure out whether the story was sensationalized or not

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          I’ve seen a bunch of reports, none were live streamed so they haven’t broken through. Some are probably actually accidental but I doubt they all are, additionally the Molotovs thrown at Sam Altman house and a Tesla dealership. I believe I heard something about one at a Raytheon office.

          There’s a lot of chaff I haven’t completely sorted through but again im hopeful

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            Yeah shits breaking down on the edges and will probably only gain more traction as energy bills hit come the summer with the obligatory spike in air conditionet usage. Depending on how things escalate it may very well be possible to see feds being chased out of cities by militia sooner or later.