Yeah its kinda anti capitalist to limit its use if you bought it. Its like if you want to limit how its used then it should be some kinda loan. Maybe you can pay a used price when you retire if you want to keep it. Medals and such should be a gift to so that should always be allowed to be worn as the recipient sees fit.
Agreed. A lot of people will hand down rank patches to the rank below so that they don’t have to buy new ones. It’s helpful and usually a sign of respect to your younger troops.
thats even more amazing. you would think they would make it a point to control the rank insignia. Like you have to hand in your old one when you get your new one and such.
exactly because of that. Like you know what was it the marines or something that copywrited a camoflouge pattern. I mean would make much more sense to control insignia. Its not that it needs to be controlled as much as its beneficial to. Its like saying why does currency need to be controlled.
Well, there’s a 2 part answer to that. MARPAT, which you are referencing, contains little EGAs (Eagle, Globe, Anchor - the trademarked logo of the marines) and it’s intent was to both distinguish it from other branches uniforms and reduce the amount of commercial knock offs.
For rank, we’ve borrowed rank insignia from predecessors, so you can’t really trademark that.
The rank honestly means nothing to anyone outside the military. And it only matters when you’re trying to figure out who has the authority to make certain decisions. Faking rank or impersonating a different rank will get you into trouble FAST.
Unlike currency, which has value on it’s own, the rank means nothing without the paperwork to back it. There’s paperwork behind your rank, and THAT’S what matters. Not the insignia itself.
yeah but as you said faking it is something you don’t want. Thus you want to make it has hard to do in the first place so you don’t get to the point of going after the person. I mean counterfitting will get you in trouble fast to if your caught. Im kinda surprised they never said. Hey we are redoing insignia so that its unique to us.
Sure, but cost/benefit analysis says it’s not worth the time and effort. The rank insignia have tradition behind them that the military wants to maintain.
It’s HARD to fake the paperwork. And that’s what you’d really need to fake it effectively. People will catch you very quickly.
I also don’t think there’s enough benefit to anyone faking it for it to matter either. People do “stolen valor” all the time, and what do they actually get out of it?
So what’s the motivation to fake it in the first place?
I don’t think every interaction between military personelle involves checking one anothers paperwork. As I said it basically like currency. Why would somone want to make a duplicate of a police badge. Well that would be to pretend to be a policeman. why would someone duplicate some rank insignia. well to pretend to be someone in the particular thing at that particular rank.
Yeah its kinda anti capitalist to limit its use if you bought it. Its like if you want to limit how its used then it should be some kinda loan. Maybe you can pay a used price when you retire if you want to keep it. Medals and such should be a gift to so that should always be allowed to be worn as the recipient sees fit.
Agreed. A lot of people will hand down rank patches to the rank below so that they don’t have to buy new ones. It’s helpful and usually a sign of respect to your younger troops.
thats even more amazing. you would think they would make it a point to control the rank insignia. Like you have to hand in your old one when you get your new one and such.
I mean, you can just buy the stuff online? Why does it need to be controlled?
exactly because of that. Like you know what was it the marines or something that copywrited a camoflouge pattern. I mean would make much more sense to control insignia. Its not that it needs to be controlled as much as its beneficial to. Its like saying why does currency need to be controlled.
Well, there’s a 2 part answer to that. MARPAT, which you are referencing, contains little EGAs (Eagle, Globe, Anchor - the trademarked logo of the marines) and it’s intent was to both distinguish it from other branches uniforms and reduce the amount of commercial knock offs.
For rank, we’ve borrowed rank insignia from predecessors, so you can’t really trademark that.
The rank honestly means nothing to anyone outside the military. And it only matters when you’re trying to figure out who has the authority to make certain decisions. Faking rank or impersonating a different rank will get you into trouble FAST.
Unlike currency, which has value on it’s own, the rank means nothing without the paperwork to back it. There’s paperwork behind your rank, and THAT’S what matters. Not the insignia itself.
yeah but as you said faking it is something you don’t want. Thus you want to make it has hard to do in the first place so you don’t get to the point of going after the person. I mean counterfitting will get you in trouble fast to if your caught. Im kinda surprised they never said. Hey we are redoing insignia so that its unique to us.
Sure, but cost/benefit analysis says it’s not worth the time and effort. The rank insignia have tradition behind them that the military wants to maintain.
It’s HARD to fake the paperwork. And that’s what you’d really need to fake it effectively. People will catch you very quickly.
I also don’t think there’s enough benefit to anyone faking it for it to matter either. People do “stolen valor” all the time, and what do they actually get out of it?
So what’s the motivation to fake it in the first place?
I don’t think every interaction between military personelle involves checking one anothers paperwork. As I said it basically like currency. Why would somone want to make a duplicate of a police badge. Well that would be to pretend to be a policeman. why would someone duplicate some rank insignia. well to pretend to be someone in the particular thing at that particular rank.