“Let’s not change the system as it stands, lets just get rid of minorities and people facing minority issues, and the system fixes itself!”
Idk man, that sounds eerily similar to fascism. Just because it’s sugar-coated as being an “option” (which benefits them because they can no longer be held accountable for their poor decisions) doesn’t make it any better.
All our governments worldwide are beholden to the corporations of capitalist extractionists who control all of our resources. Go protest a data centre/deforestation/an oil pipeline/etc and see how well that goes for you.
The vast majority of people who want access to euthanasia are not the sort of people who have any power or ability to fight trillionaire corporations and billionaire capitalists for better rights.
Ffs many of us who want this can’t even support ourselves or contribute towards society in meaningful ways because we’re struggling so much, so even in a fucking pipe dream utopia, the best options we have are being surrounded by happy people while we continue to be debilitatingly mentally ill and/or neurologically different.
Gaining the right to access safe suicide for all adults who want it, is something we’re probably never going to get though, not only because even so broken we’re still making corpo’s money by being data points and political targets, but also because of all the shitty people like you, fighting to deny the agency of those worse off than you.
And no offense but your argument here is literally: If people worse off than you get the right to access safe suicide, it’ll obviously lead eugenics because why stop there, give them rights as individuals and these minorities will clearly just end up being rounded up and killed wholesale by the government.
Like, seriously. You who thinks we should be fighting mega corporations for a better quality of life, thinks that any rights those worse off that you get will be abused to murder them en masse.
I attend protests regularly and am actively engaged in civil change programs and organisations.
Debilitatingly mentally ill and/or neurologically different
So like me, who has autism, ADHD, Persistent Depressive Disorder, has been denied a Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis by my doctor out of fears of stigma, has CPTSD, etc.
shitty people like you
At no point did I name-call anybody else. Funny how someone with mental and neurological disorders gets told to “fuck off” and is called a “shitty person” when their view differs from other people with mental disorders, almost like we don’t have the capacity to think straight and rationally a lot of the time and shouldn’t be making such a decision like this when we have provably treatable conditions.
“It’ll obviously lead to eugenics because why stop there”. Persistent Depressive Disorder is treatable and requires that you stay in a depressive state for at least two years to be diagnosed. A MAID assessment is 90 days. See the issue here? People could be given the wrong treatment options because they’re thought to have the wrong conditions and can decide that they want to end their life when other treatment options and diagnoses could be in play. This process can be complicated when you’re neurodiverse. A “choice” forced on you by society and systemic injustice is not really a choice, hence why I do call it eugenics. We don’t have to literally be brought into pens like cattle for it to be eugenics, all it takes is for us to be considered undesirable, which is already the case among a lot of people, and for the government to take improving our lives off the table as an option, replacing things with “deal with it, or die”.
Your argument is basically “people worse off than you shouldn’t have to do xyz for change because reasons”. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had it pretty bad so don’t come here playing these nonsense games of name-calling if your end goal is “but I’ve had it worse than you, therefore I’m right”
“Let’s not change the system as it stands, lets just get rid of minorities and people facing minority issues, and the system fixes itself!”
Idk man, that sounds eerily similar to fascism. Just because it’s sugar-coated as being an “option” (which benefits them because they can no longer be held accountable for their poor decisions) doesn’t make it any better.
All our governments worldwide are beholden to the corporations of capitalist extractionists who control all of our resources. Go protest a data centre/deforestation/an oil pipeline/etc and see how well that goes for you.
The vast majority of people who want access to euthanasia are not the sort of people who have any power or ability to fight trillionaire corporations and billionaire capitalists for better rights.
Ffs many of us who want this can’t even support ourselves or contribute towards society in meaningful ways because we’re struggling so much, so even in a fucking pipe dream utopia, the best options we have are being surrounded by happy people while we continue to be debilitatingly mentally ill and/or neurologically different.
Gaining the right to access safe suicide for all adults who want it, is something we’re probably never going to get though, not only because even so broken we’re still making corpo’s money by being data points and political targets, but also because of all the shitty people like you, fighting to deny the agency of those worse off than you.
And no offense but your argument here is literally: If people worse off than you get the right to access safe suicide, it’ll obviously lead eugenics because why stop there, give them rights as individuals and these minorities will clearly just end up being rounded up and killed wholesale by the government.
Like, seriously. You who thinks we should be fighting mega corporations for a better quality of life, thinks that any rights those worse off that you get will be abused to murder them en masse.
I attend protests regularly and am actively engaged in civil change programs and organisations.
So like me, who has autism, ADHD, Persistent Depressive Disorder, has been denied a Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis by my doctor out of fears of stigma, has CPTSD, etc.
At no point did I name-call anybody else. Funny how someone with mental and neurological disorders gets told to “fuck off” and is called a “shitty person” when their view differs from other people with mental disorders, almost like we don’t have the capacity to think straight and rationally a lot of the time and shouldn’t be making such a decision like this when we have provably treatable conditions.
“It’ll obviously lead to eugenics because why stop there”. Persistent Depressive Disorder is treatable and requires that you stay in a depressive state for at least two years to be diagnosed. A MAID assessment is 90 days. See the issue here? People could be given the wrong treatment options because they’re thought to have the wrong conditions and can decide that they want to end their life when other treatment options and diagnoses could be in play. This process can be complicated when you’re neurodiverse. A “choice” forced on you by society and systemic injustice is not really a choice, hence why I do call it eugenics. We don’t have to literally be brought into pens like cattle for it to be eugenics, all it takes is for us to be considered undesirable, which is already the case among a lot of people, and for the government to take improving our lives off the table as an option, replacing things with “deal with it, or die”.
Your argument is basically “people worse off than you shouldn’t have to do xyz for change because reasons”. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had it pretty bad so don’t come here playing these nonsense games of name-calling if your end goal is “but I’ve had it worse than you, therefore I’m right”