When Windows 10 support ends I was planning on transitioning to Linux on my desktop. I just tried CachyOS KDE Plasma and immediately ran into two serious issues:

  1. I could not figure out how to get audio to come out of my headphones. Everything is connected, and sound totally works on Windows 10 with my Audioengine D3 USB DAC, but not in CachyOS. I messed with all the system audio settings, profiles, and mute control, and nothing worked. No audio at all, not from test sound, not from browser.

  2. Apparently Wayland is the name of the default/best video compositor for Linux, but it doesn’t seem to support ycbcr subsampling modes. In Windows 10, I use the Nvidia-provided 4:2:0 subsampling mode with my RTX 2060 Super to get 4K120 support over HDMI to my LG C1 (genuinely hard to see the difference unless you’re running a test pattern). It seems you have to use the X11 compositor in Linux to get that feature, but I’ve read that X11 provides a poor experience compared to Wayland.

Not to mention, my first CachyOS install attempt bugged midway through (installing from DVD disc) and I spent a lot of time unsuccessfully trying to restart the install process not realizing something was borked in that session that was preventing partitions from being formatted for the installer. So I rebooted and manually set to load the installer into RAM, and finally was able to get it to install.

Seeing my experience hasn’t improved since the last time I tried Linux (Mint, a few years ago - really bad audio stuttering), now the plan has switched to sticking to W10 until software inevitably stops supporting it (Nvidia is already ending W10 game ready support this year), and then switching to W11. I’ll just have to use mods to improve the usability, specifically for start menu and right click menu.

I would like to use Linux but it really disappointed me seeing all the hype on LTT’s channel, only to see that it’s still user experience hell. It’s either “works but evil” (Windows) or “doesn’t work but not evil” (Linux) and that’s unfortunate.

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    7 hours ago

    I know people have had problems with linux but man I have installed it on so many laptops with no issues. I mean way back in the aughts it was different but in the 20’s I have had worse problems with windows.

  • Pika@hikki.team
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    4 days ago

    My 2 cents:

    Never, under any circumstances, use CachyOS or any other Arch-based distribution if you’re a Linux newbie. Arch assumes you know your way around the system, know how to fix this or that, and which package you miss to make the sound work. It is, by all means, “move fast and break stuff”.

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      4 days ago

      I found Kubuntu has the same two problems I detailed but I made slightly more progress this time. The USB DAC would’ve likely also worked at 100% volume in CashyOS I just didn’t think to try it because of my ears. I’m sure some manual config edit can fix that but I expect something basic like sound to work by default and knowing it doesn’t makes me assume other basic things will be a pain in the future.

      Then I actually tried subsampling in an X11 session this time, but the problem is the Night Light hue becomes green. But 4k120 at ycbcr 4:2:0 does work in principle. And the fact that this is in xorg config rather than a settings GUI, all this config text editing is so slow and sketchy for me.

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      6 days ago

      Yes. I might at least try Ubuntu on the Linux partition I have before I wipe it. But I did find out StartAllBack is sick for Windows 11 so usability wise it will be fine.

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    6 days ago

    CachyOS might be a bit too ambitious for a transition like that. Tinkering and optimizing is a given on arch-based system.

    Don’t get discouraged though and give Fedora, Ubuntu or even Bazzite a go I’d say. You can try out the sound in their live environment without having to install anything.

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      4 days ago

      Doubling that. Fedora/OpenSUSE if you expect to mess with system files and do all sorts of obscure stuff, Bazzite if you don’t.

      If you go Fedora, I also recommend familiarizing yourself with snapper and BTRFS. Use btrfs-assistant to make it easy. You’ll thank me later, the hacky one.

      OpenSUSE has it out of the box, and Bazzite doesn’t need it.

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    6 days ago

    Those kind of hardware incompatibilities do happen. I think the audio one can be troubleshooted but I have absolutely no idea about the nvidia one.

    Hopefully your hardware gets supported on Linux one day.

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    6 days ago

    Burning an ISO to a DVD in 2026 as a way to test out Linux is crazy…

    Sometimes I think people just want to justify their choice to stay in Windows and try to have a bad experience.

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      5 days ago

      I wasn’t aware DVDs were incompatible with Linux. Things being old does not = bad.

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        5 days ago

        Things being old does not = bad.

        No, but the older they get, the less compatible they are with a “modern” system. This is inherent in any technology as time moves on. I would have similarly judged anyone trying to install Windows XP from a stack of floppy disks 20 years ago…

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          5 days ago

          Well, Windows can install fine from DVDs afaik. I don’t do W11 on it because it got too large for single layer. But I own a bluray drive and blank discs which are cheaper to use as permanent OS install sources than USB drives. The drive also helps if I want to run emulators that can play discs.

          At the same time I’m not even sure the disc was the reason the original install bugged. I was just looking through settings to get acquainted then it quit.

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    5 days ago

    In Kubuntu, I was able to get my HT Omega Fenix sound card to work (switching profile to the correct spdif output), but the Audioengine D3 only works at 100% volume. This is the kind of thing that it’s like cool if it’s a one time thing. But you just know if it can’t work out of the box for something like a USB DAC, it’s not gonna be all fun down the line for other more specialized hardware I try to use.

    I also tried getting 4:2:0 subsampling to work in an X11 session in Kubuntu. I was able to get there editing xorg.conf (which is annoying having to edit a config file - no option for it in the Nvidia X Server settings). 4K120 over HDMI works in principle, but then Night Light’s hue becomes green instead of red.

    Additionally, Kubuntu (KDE Plasma) was the best looking and functional desktop I found when browsing various ones (it has the taskbar customization settings I want built in), but it still just feels kind of cheap to me. The early 2000s looking pngs everywhere, the transparency and jiggling in window dragging, very basic looking UI icons. It feels more cute and amateurish rather than serious, visuals and design wise.

    I understand it’s free software which is awesome but yeah all of this is not working for me. Gonna stop my search for now after trying CachyOS and Kubuntu. Maybe when SteamOS is in full wide-release mode I will try that.

    Thank you everyone.

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    6 days ago

    works for me three years ago now when I switched, I use Mint, no issues. AMD CPU and integrated GPU, dual booted for a month and stopped using windows, formatted the NVME and installed LDME from a USB thumb drive, using that ever since.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    Dude, I wanna tell you that success is possible.

    On this one daily driver of a 6-year-old machine. I installed proxmox. Then a desktop on top of that. Then I made the USB keyboard, mouse, and sound, go into that internal machine with the video card. Then I plugged all that shit into a USB KVM, then a 20ft set of USB and video cables to my desk, where the USB is hubbed to the ends of sanity itself before it comes out to a USB mouse, keyboard, and sound dongle. Video goes to the panels clamped onto this desk.

    Works. It defies logic, threatens one spec and probably breaks a low of nature and more than one of decency, but it works.

    Your way-better gear should really work like gangbusters. Please keep at it in case the solution is right there.

    • TrantaLocked@lemmy.zipOP
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      5 days ago

      I also noticed sound wasn’t working from my pcie sound card either (HT Omega Fenix). So sound just wasn’t working in general.

  • Tbh, this in specific is why I still have a win7 pc for my music enjoyment.

    Not that audio can’t work fine on Linux, it absolutely can. But it doesn’t always, and it’s definitely not as friendly to an external DAC unless you get lucky. Mine works fine overall, but it’s still not quite as reliable. The signal cuts out, etc. Works better on my laptop than my desktop, though the laptop I’ve never had any issues, despite using the same distro when I had Linux on that desktop.

    Me? In your place I’d try some other distros before full on quitting, but I’m a glutton for punishment because I enjoy fiddling up to a point. Mint, maybe one of the more noob friendly arch options, something along those lines. PopOs might be an okay starting place to see if it’s Linux, or a distro issue. I do know that pulse and the other audio functions vary some between distros, though I’m nowhere near capable of understanding why without learning other things first. I do know that when I tried cachy via a live drive last, it was pissy about sounding decent straight out of the box, so I abandoned it without an install.

    Either way, I totally get it. Some things, it isn’t about adapting to the system, you just want shit to work the way it should. Music is one of those things for me too.

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      4 days ago

      Interestingly enough, my sound card started working better on Linux than it did on Windows. On the latter, any system suspension like sleep mode would render it useless until the reboot. On Linux, it just works and never fails.

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    7 days ago

    I have never tried Catchy, but some distros require more setup and maintenance than others.

    Currently I have Debian and Pop os as my main distros. Those two have worked almost without issue compared to other distros I tried. Troubleshooting and learning how your computer actually works is part of the fun with Linux though. I used to get really discouraged when something on my computer would not work, but I realized that was mainly due to not understanding how to fix it. With Linux you can fix it yourself and it teaches you how to be patient and learn to solve computer issues on your own.

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    7 days ago
    1. Audio is always an issue. I still have issues with Audio on some distros. like on Void I couldn’t get audio working at all to save my life. Try a different distro like Fedora or Debian if you want it to work out of the box. if you’re looking for a gaming focused distro like CachyOS try PikaOS which is a fork of Debian. by far one of the quickest and most straight forward installs i’ve ever experienced.

    2. you don’t have to use Wayland, I don’t. I can’t stand wayland. I use X11 with Picom. I use DWM cause it just works. if you want a desktop environment then use XFCE4. that just works and is very light weight.

    But honestly at the end of the day if Windows works for you and still works for you then just stick with it. Don’t listen to the people who say “wah wah windows bad” it doesn’t matter. Use whatever works. I mean I use every OS on various machines because I honestly enjoy playing around with Operating Systems. I use Linux, BSD, Windows, MacOS on various machines. there’s no perfect OS out there and I’ve used them all. just use what works for you and your hardware.

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    7 days ago

    Hmmh. Isn’t there some way to fix those two issues? I mean it’s usually the case that we have to put in some effort when starting fresh. You probably put in time to get the audio how you like it with Windows, and configured the display subsampling to your liking and now that’s all set up perfectly. And now you’re trying to set up the computer in a different way. And I’d expect that to sometimes come with a bit of friction?! At least it won’t just continue exactly as is, because you’re starting fresh with a new operating system.

    If you really like to switch… I think configuring a USB DAC should be possible. Not sure about the Nvidia stuff. You’d have to blame the big companies for deliberately messing up HDMI. And LG for not providing any alternative. I mean if it’s worth the effort for you, you could try asking for help. If you’re okay with Windows and like to avoid starting all over again, maybe just stick with it?!

    I mean it’s going to be some sort of tradeoff anyway. Currently you have the subsampling right. Maybe on the flipside your CPU performance is worse than it could be with Linux. And it’s a bit wasteful with the memory and spies on you. With Linux that might improve, but you might trade it in for a few different quirks. Computers rarely come anywhere close to being perfect. But you can pick your poison.