• blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    The UK has been criticising Israel for attacking Lebanon though.

    Like I said, if Israel wanted recon they can just use their own drones. Seems like people are jumping to the conclusion that we’re gathering intel for Israel rather than collecting our own Intel to get an idea of what’s going on.

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      Might be both. Tell Israel it’s to help, but make records to make the case to exit the war. That or blackmail Isreal to moderate themselves, but they have no shame so I don’t think it’s that.

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      Critisizing israel but still sell wespons, share intel and impose no sanctions on the state of israel itself. That’s called hypocrisy

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        They’ll arrest you for supporting Palestine Action which has been designated a terrorist group by the government. You wouldn’t be arrested for peacefully protesting and supporting the Palistinian cause.

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          Why was it designated a terrorist group. Who have they killed and what crimes against civilians have they committed?

          I am being rhetorical of course and besides it has already been determined unlawful.

          It is clear they attempted to illegally suppress human rights in support of Isreal.

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            JTAC based their assessment largely on the Filton incident where a police officer suffered possibly life-changing injuries after a PA member attacked them repeatedly with a sledgehammer.

            The underlying basis was the definition used in the Terrorism Act, of a group that commits serious damage to property in order to influence government policy. The UK is one of the few places to have such a broad definition.

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              police officer suffered possibly life-changing injuries after a PA member attacked them repeatedly with a sledgehammer.

              Of course when the video was released to the courts it showed it was the police officer doing the brutalising on the protester. Not surprising the police would lie.

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              Oh gosh one person severely injured, that is horrible. I am truly sorry for their suffering as no one deserves treatment like that.

              On the other hand there have been a verifiable 172,000 Palestinian injuries with over 72,000 estimated deaths.

              The government knew full well what they were doing and anyone defending it should be ashamed to defend this abuse of human rights. There is no doubt in my mind about this because it is a verifiable pattern.

              Just like UKs support of Israel.

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            I’m not arguing about the designation, that’s up to the government. However the people that been arrested for holding up the signs knew exactly what they where doing and had been warned before their arrests. They were protesting the proscription of Palistine Action rather than generally supporting Palistine.

            We will find out how it all plays out once the appeals process is completed.

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              Yeah I am not sure that is accurate to say people were only protesting the act of it being banned. I am sure the majority also supports ending the genocide that the UK refuses to designate as such.

              When you can excuse human rights abuses it is all pretty much moot anyways.

              • Alex@lemmy.ml
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                I didn’t say that they were only protesting the ban. That is what they were arrested for through.

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              Iranians who protested the regime knew what would happen to them with your dumb logic I get it was fine what the Iranisn regime did

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          Designed as a terrorist orgsnization because it support palestine and oppose settler colonialism