But it isn’t false. They are literal nazis and say literal nazi things.
Several offices for the protection of the constitution of the German Länder (they are a kind of anti-extremist intelligence services, in case you don’t know) have found them to be “assuredly right-wing-extremists”, which is the worst possible classification the law recognises.
Not sure what the exact quote for “gas the jews!” is as they probably said it in German, but it’s very likley someone in the AfD said something that would translate to that on record.
Thanks, I would have looked differently at your comment if you had directly added that source.
it’s very likley
Then it is still not a quote.
In general, if somebody can proof something easily but does not, then I assume that it is wrong. If others think like me, you create the opposite message of what you want.
You’re right, they misquoted. The actual quote is from Marcel Grauf and says:
I wish for a civil war with millions of deaths, a lot. Women, children, I don’t care. It would be so nice. I want to piss on corpses and dance on graves. SIEG HEIL!
(“Ich wünsche mir so sehr einen Bürgerkrieg und Millionen Tote. Frauen, Kinder. Mir egal. Es wäre so schön. Ich will auf Leichen pissen und auf Gräbern tanzen. SIEG HEIL!”)
Unfortunately, the other parties are very well taking up the Nazis’ lies. The Nazis are playing the political establishment like a fiddle.
To stick with your example of the potato sack, the established parties do just jump the Nazi bandwagon and parrot their narrative in a less extreme manner, like “Illegal immigrants kicking over potato sacks is a severe problem, we need to protect our potato sacks by border controls and increased deportations.”
Just as one AfD politician remarked last year, (after the election in Thuringia, if I recall right) the AfD is ruling without actually being in the government.
I think the problem can be summed up as poll driven politics.
It’s a feedback loop, they do focus on a topic some opinion poll has shown to be somewhat popular, the resulting exposure increases popularity, which reflects in the polls, which leads to increased political focus on the topic…
The other parties are not taking up AfDs made up causes because they are made up.
For example:
A sack of potatoes falls.
AfD: Foreigners are causing the sacks to fall! We must gas them! And the jews!
Other parties: This is so stupid it doesn’t even warrant a response.
General public: but the foreigners!!111!1!!!11 and the potatoes!!1! I am outraged!!!111!!!
I don’t think that you make a good point if you yourself make up your point. Please quote the AfD to avoid all doubt.
Of course. Here is an AfD quote:
Hope that makes it clearer.
Don’t you see that false quotes undermine your position?
But it isn’t false. They are literal nazis and say literal nazi things.
Several offices for the protection of the constitution of the German Länder (they are a kind of anti-extremist intelligence services, in case you don’t know) have found them to be “assuredly right-wing-extremists”, which is the worst possible classification the law recognises.
Again. Literal, actual, nazis.
Yes. That’s why you should quote what they literally say. It’s not a quote if you write what you think they say.
“Sieg Heil” is definitly a real AfD quote, Marcel Grauf said that in a private chat that was evidence in a court case.
Not sure what the exact quote for “gas the jews!” is as they probably said it in German, but it’s very likley someone in the AfD said something that would translate to that on record.
Sadly they’re too intelligent to say that directly and rather put it in antisemitic jokes and insinuations.
This is how it works: https://www.boell.de/de/2024/07/01/die-afd-und-ihr-verschleierter-antisemitismus
Thanks, I would have looked differently at your comment if you had directly added that source.
Then it is still not a quote.
In general, if somebody can proof something easily but does not, then I assume that it is wrong. If others think like me, you create the opposite message of what you want.
I hope that this exchange has convinced you that the AfD are nazis.
Oh, I’m not the original commenter.
You’re right, they misquoted. The actual quote is from Marcel Grauf and says:
(“Ich wünsche mir so sehr einen Bürgerkrieg und Millionen Tote. Frauen, Kinder. Mir egal. Es wäre so schön. Ich will auf Leichen pissen und auf Gräbern tanzen. SIEG HEIL!”)
Unfortunately, the other parties are very well taking up the Nazis’ lies. The Nazis are playing the political establishment like a fiddle.
To stick with your example of the potato sack, the established parties do just jump the Nazi bandwagon and parrot their narrative in a less extreme manner, like “Illegal immigrants kicking over potato sacks is a severe problem, we need to protect our potato sacks by border controls and increased deportations.”
Just as one AfD politician remarked last year, (after the election in Thuringia, if I recall right) the AfD is ruling without actually being in the government.
This reflects American politics as well.
I think the problem can be summed up as poll driven politics.
It’s a feedback loop, they do focus on a topic some opinion poll has shown to be somewhat popular, the resulting exposure increases popularity, which reflects in the polls, which leads to increased political focus on the topic…