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The USSR lost 27~ million people fighting and crushing the Nazis and you fucking disgusting fascists could never let it go.
What made you think that NATO is Nazi?


You are too good a propagandist to push false information selectively.
both the West and the Soviet Union used former German soldiers and scientists after World War II to rebuild their militaries and space programs. USSR also hired thousands of former Wehrmacht officers to build the East German army and used German engineers for Soviet rockets under Operation Osoaviakhim. Both sides did this for practical military experience during the Cold War, so using these officers does not make NATO a Nazi organization. your propaganda doesnt work here!! Russia and the USSR are the same evil, at least like NAZI
Operation Osoaviakim:
Scientists in labour camps.
Operation Paperclip:
Franz Halder
German general and the chief of staff of the Army High Command (OKH) in Nazi Germany from 1938 until September 1942. During World War II, he directed the planning and implementation of Operation Barbarossa, the 1941 invasion of the Soviet Union. Halder became instrumental in the radicalisation of warfare on the Eastern Front. He had his staff draft both the Commissar Order (issued on 6 June 1941) and the Barbarossa Decree (signed on 13 May 1941) that allowed German soldiers to execute Soviet citizens for any reason without fear of later prosecution, leading to numerous war crimes and atrocities during the campaign. After the war, he had a decisive role in the development of the myth of the clean Wehrmacht.
After World War II Halder served as a lead consultant for the US Army Historical Division. He oversaw the writing of over 2,500 historical documents by 700 former German officers, whom he instructed to remove material detrimental to the image of the German armed forces. Halder used his influence to foster a false history of the German-Soviet conflict in which the German army fought a “noble war” and which denied its war crimes. The US Army overlooked Halder’s apologia because Halder’s group was providing military insights on the Soviet Union that it deemed important in the light of the Cold War. Halder succeeded in his aim of exonerating the German Army: first with the US military, then amongst widening circles of politicians and eventually in American popular culture. In 1961, he was awarded the Meritorious Civilian Service Award,
– Adolf Heusinger and Hans Speidel Chairman of NATO’s Military Committee and Commander of the Allied Land Forces Central Europe (COMLANDCENT) respectively
– Johann von Kielmansegg, General Staff officer to the High Command of the Wehrmacht, 1942-44, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1967-68.
– Sturmführer Dr. Eberhard Taubert worked with Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Propaganda where he was responsible for designing the yellow badge for Jews. After the war, he eventually became an adviser to ex-Nazi Franz Josef Strauss, German Minister of Defence from 1956-62, and was assigned by Strauss to NATO’s “Psychological Warfare Department” .
– Nazi Admiral and U-Boat commander Friedrich Guggenberger, whose U-boat sank 17 allied ships, later served as Deputy Chief of Staff in the NATO command Armed Forces North (AFNORTH) 1968-72.
– Johannes Steinhoff, a Luftwaffe fighter pilot, was made Chairman of the NATO Military Committee 1971-74, holding other NATO positions prior to that.
– Ernst Ferber, a major in the Wehrmacht, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1973-75.
– Karl Schnell, First General Staff officer of the LXXVI Panzer Corps, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1975-77.
– Franz Joseph Schulze, Chief of the Third Battery of the Flak Storm Regiment 241, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1977-79.
– Ferdinand von Senger und Etterline, Lieutenant of the 24th Panzer Division of the German Sixth Army, was NATO’s Commander in Chief of Allied Forces Central Europe, 1979-83.
— West German Chief of Staff Hans Globke, Globke drafted the legal commentary on the 1935 Nuremberg laws, legalising the exclusion of Jews from public life, the theft of their assets and opening the door to their eventual murder. It was Globke’s idea to put a “J” in every Jewish citizen’s identity papers, alongside their new middle names: “Israel” for men, “Sara” for women. Globke’s fingerprints were also on laws outlawing “racial disgrace” – relations between Jews and “Aryans”. After the war, Globke confessed that he knew all about the Shoah, the industrialised murder of European Jews.
— Kurt Georg Kiesinger, served as the chancellor of West Germany from 1 December 1966 to 21 October 1969. Before he became chancellor, he served as Minister-President of Baden-Württemberg from 1958 to 1966 and as President of the Bundesrat from 1962 to 1963. He was chairman of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) from 1967 to 1971. In 1940 he was appointed to the broadcast policy department of the Foreign Office by Joachim von Ribbentrop, and became deputy head of the broadcasting and propaganda departments in 1942.
— The brutal Butcher of Lyon, notorious Nazi Klaus Barbie spent the Second World War torturing children and sending whole families to the death camps. But when the conflict ended, the Gestapo captain didn’t face instant arrest and swift justice. Instead, the US allowed him to start a new life as a CIA spy, smuggling him into Bolivia where he helped hunt and kill the revolutionary Che Guevara among other atrocities.
— General Reinhard Gehlen, the German army’s intelligence chief for the Eastern Front during World War II. At the end of the war, Gehlen established a close relationship with the U.S. and successfully maintained his intelligence network (it ultimately became the West German BND) even though he employed numerous former Nazis and known war criminals.
You right. West Germany have serious Nazi problem. More high-ranking Nazis in 1957 government than during Third Reich. Klaus Barbie, Gehlen, Globke — all real. This factual. But you selective. You acknowledge this, then claim “so NATO is Nazi.” That not logical.
Germany having Nazi problem ≠ NATO organization being Nazi. Two different things. West bad for protecting Nazis? Yes. But that don’t prove NATO ideology is fascist.Also you ignore: USSR also protect war criminals. USSR also hire Nazis. USSR enslave them worse. But I don’t claim USSR is Nazi because of that. You selective with facts. You use them to prove West evil, but ignore USSR do same. That propaganda. Real analysis say both sides bad. You just blame West.
Final point: Even if everything you say true — West protect Nazis, CIA shelter criminals, all of it — still don’t justify Russia invade Ukraine 2022. History crimes don’t authorize future invasions.
You hide this. You use “West is Nazi” to justify Russia invasion. That manipulation.
My all comments get deleted prove that you propagandist. lemmy.ml or relevant moderators hide behind “Rule 1” but really you censor facts you don’t like. Your rule say “no bigotry” but you delete geopolitics analysis. That manipulation. I post facts. it get deleted anyway. Then claim I break rules. Lie.
Real rule: Don’t challenge Russia narrative. Everything else is excuse
Why are you suddenly pretending to be illiterate?
Not pretending. Your argument bad logic. show West hire Nazis not proof nato is nazi organization.You can’t argue it so you insult instead. I am blockıng you, you cant have healthy argument with propagandist in lemmy.ml . I am blocking all the instance
No you definitely are. I can see your comment history. I am curious why you decided to suddenly start pretending to be illiterate. It makes it really annoying to parse and translate what you’re saying in my head.
Also your original comment was a strawman anyway.
All I did was point out that much of the leadership of NATO around it’s founding were former high ranking Nazis, as part of the systematic issue in the west at the time of parachuting Nazis into positions of power as they were ideologically opposed to the communists. This was in comparison to the Soviets who put Nazi scientists to work I’m workcamps for minimum wage to work off their debt to society.
The USSR used them for labour. NATO put them in top positions of power. You’re making severe oversiplifications.
USSR used low-ranking Nazis and their lives were severely restricted. While Amerika gave them all cushy jobs, glowing admiration and positions in important foundations like NATO, NASA and the EU. How the fuck are they even remotely on the same level?
false. because the Soviet Union placed senior Wehrmacht generals like Vincenz Müller into top military commands and government roles in East Germany, shows that both superpowers pragmatically elevated former German officers to build their Cold War military. Do not selectively choose history!
Do not selectively choose history!
Hey fuckface, how about you don’t selectively choose your arguments like a shitlib? https://lemmy.ml/comment/28138093 you did not even respond to this in-depth reply to you. Why? Because it completely dismantles your nazi apologia?




