Sure, and I can identify an asshole, but still. I keep running into this problem where there’s someone doing a knee-jerk vehement reaction to the very mention of Lemmy or other alt-social media. This disrupts a friendly response to someone who says they don’t like reddit. I like to defend when I hear misinformation being spread but the problem is the second you defend, you place yourself on the defensive, and suddenly put the burden of proof on yourself in the discussion.
It’s honestly a balancing act and I would love to read someone’s study on this stuff if it wasn’t so frustrating in the moment
LLMs have fully mastered the art of the Turing Test in spades. The layman’s experience with them is just whatever they see on the news or ChatGPT, with easy advice like “jUsT lOok At ThE EmOjiS aNd eMDasHeS”. But, rule files are incredibly easy to make (they are literally just Markdown files), and can tweak the default behavior of a model, including getting rid of behaviors that make it look like a bot.
Or just give an LLM a large sample size of data, and say “create a rules file to emulate the chat behaviors contained in this file”. We’re talking a 5 minute operation, once you have enough data. And the amount of data can be as little as 25 posts.
For one, we’re way past the necessary level of complexity for bots to do that, many months now. If any even slightly large corporation wants to, they can easily and cheaply spin up chatbots to do that.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t instantly chalk it up to bots, simply because there’s many many people, who comment backwards reactionary shit they don’t understand, just to feel better themselves. And few things are more satisfying to such people, than dunking on the new-and-alternative thing.
It’s a very pleasant thing, to feel content that you’ve made the right choices, and don’t need to change anything.
I tend to have better exchanges with people when I ask if they have heard of it first. Then I try to phrase my point of view as my experience and/or my opinion. This has helped me. Might not work for you though. Every personality is unique.
Yes, reddit is a cult, the hivemind aint called the hivemind for nothing.
Thought terminating cliches?
In group out group dynamics?
Its a cult, spend your time on other things.
Non zero chance theres a bot network set up to do precisely the behavior you are encountering, triggers upon mention of lemmy.
Reddit is well known to have been host to many, many other botnets doing the same kinds of shit and worse… there are entire guidebooks on how to drown discussions in bullshit and drama, how to divide communities into factions based around a popularity contest between the most well known members, who will then experience a manufactured kerfuffle, etc, how to manufacture a two sided conflict and ‘conclude’ it back along the lines of a ‘sensible’ compromise/middle ground, etc.
You might try asking jordanlund about it, seeing as he has a decade of experience being a corpo social media manager for Adobe, on reddit.
(That last part is a joke, i doubt he would respond well to that line of questioning lol)
That’s completely fine, we don’t want that person. You’re being reasonable.
Sure, and I can identify an asshole, but still. I keep running into this problem where there’s someone doing a knee-jerk vehement reaction to the very mention of Lemmy or other alt-social media. This disrupts a friendly response to someone who says they don’t like reddit. I like to defend when I hear misinformation being spread but the problem is the second you defend, you place yourself on the defensive, and suddenly put the burden of proof on yourself in the discussion.
It’s honestly a balancing act and I would love to read someone’s study on this stuff if it wasn’t so frustrating in the moment
almost like bots being triggered by key words like Lemmy?
Never considered it. I suppose bots really could be at that level of complexity, huh?
LLMs have fully mastered the art of the Turing Test in spades. The layman’s experience with them is just whatever they see on the news or ChatGPT, with easy advice like “jUsT lOok At ThE EmOjiS aNd eMDasHeS”. But, rule files are incredibly easy to make (they are literally just Markdown files), and can tweak the default behavior of a model, including getting rid of behaviors that make it look like a bot.
Or just give an LLM a large sample size of data, and say “create a rules file to emulate the chat behaviors contained in this file”. We’re talking a 5 minute operation, once you have enough data. And the amount of data can be as little as 25 posts.
For one, we’re way past the necessary level of complexity for bots to do that, many months now. If any even slightly large corporation wants to, they can easily and cheaply spin up chatbots to do that.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t instantly chalk it up to bots, simply because there’s many many people, who comment backwards reactionary shit they don’t understand, just to feel better themselves. And few things are more satisfying to such people, than dunking on the new-and-alternative thing.
It’s a very pleasant thing, to feel content that you’ve made the right choices, and don’t need to change anything.
I tend to have better exchanges with people when I ask if they have heard of it first. Then I try to phrase my point of view as my experience and/or my opinion. This has helped me. Might not work for you though. Every personality is unique.
Yes, reddit is a cult, the hivemind aint called the hivemind for nothing.
Thought terminating cliches?
In group out group dynamics?
Its a cult, spend your time on other things.
Non zero chance theres a bot network set up to do precisely the behavior you are encountering, triggers upon mention of lemmy.
Reddit is well known to have been host to many, many other botnets doing the same kinds of shit and worse… there are entire guidebooks on how to drown discussions in bullshit and drama, how to divide communities into factions based around a popularity contest between the most well known members, who will then experience a manufactured kerfuffle, etc, how to manufacture a two sided conflict and ‘conclude’ it back along the lines of a ‘sensible’ compromise/middle ground, etc.
You might try asking jordanlund about it, seeing as he has a decade of experience being a corpo social media manager for Adobe, on reddit.
(That last part is a joke, i doubt he would respond well to that line of questioning lol)
Like lemmy?
we want the people looking for it
easy growth kills culture
i generally don’t like gatekeeping but lowest effort really is a different game
Kind of solidifying the point that the Reddit user was making, no?