• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 days ago

      Saying the Iron Dome is defensive makes me a Zionist? What? Post the actual quote where you believe I support anything Israel is doing. Not a link, let’s see the text.

      I wasn’t even defending it, I was pointing out that there is a distinction whether you like it or not.

      I don’t even like that she voted that way. I wasn’t happy about it. However, I also recognize that she’s one of the only people in Congress who actually wants to do the right thing regarding the Palestinian people.

      So when I see someone who isn’t even in the US devoting a large amount of time and effort into shitting on her for lame shit like this, I’m going to call it out.

      She is 1 of 535. She represents a single district in a country that you can’t even vote in. Yet here you are.

      What’s your agenda? You are helping to make “Zionist” into a meaningless word by throwing it around at people who disagree with you about anything.

      Every time you call someone who is overtly anti Israel a Zionist because they don’t align 100% with your worldview (that Israeli citizens deserve to die), you devalue the word.

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        Anyone who supports sending military equipment to Israel is a Zionist

        Anyone who defends people sending military equipment to Israel is a Zionist

        Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

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          You can’t even engage in nuanced conversation. You just throw that word out there and claim you won or something. Do better.

          Telling that you didn’t dispute my description of your worldview. I dunno, you sound kind of genocidal right now.

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              2 days ago

              No, nuance of middle east regional conflict, and the nature of offense vs. defense for the civilians of a nation who’s government is committing an ongoing genocide.

              But I get it, that’s just too much for you. I’ve learned my lesson

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                Under international law they’re an occupation force that can be targeted by liberation movements. All of them do military service when they’re adults, either killing, spying or facilitating these for their colony. The ones committing genocide aren’t some shadow government that Israeli people don’t know of, it’s their government in agreement with them. The vast majority of them believe it’s okay to further displace Palestinians, and back it up with arms.

                Even if international law didn’t already recognize the rights of colonized and oppressed people, we’d still be able to point to the lunatics who keep enthusiastically genociding Palestine, and the second Israelis join the IOF they’d be a valid military target.

                The only Israeli Jews who are innocent are children. Of course we don’t want children to suffer. But as long as their parents keep murdering and raping Palestinians, what else are the victims supposed to do? They already tried peaceful protests and they got crushed.

                The sooner you stop drawing arbitrary lines between how genocidal they can be as long as they do it for “defense” the sooner we can have a realistic conversation of what’s going on, why, and what needs to happen so people stop being fucking genocided.