• alexc@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        7 days ago

        Given the US Billions given as military subsidies to Israel over the past years, chances are US taxpayers already paid for the Golden Dome.

        What she appears to be saying is that Israel is the equivalent a horribly spoiled child, and that no matter how much it kicks and screams, it shouldn’t be given any more toys.

        • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          7 days ago

          What she’s saying is that she doesn’t want to give Israel more toys unless Israel goes broke spending all its money on toys (genocide)

          • alexc@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            6 days ago

            No she isn’t. She’s saying I won’t vote to give Israel any more funds because it has a lot of money. I understand why you believe your version, but I think it’s a false equivalency. Just because you say you won’t do something for reason X, it in no way implies that you will do it if X is removed.

            Maybe if you stated your personal opinion on US Taxpayer funding the Israel war machine, it might help.

            If not, it sounds like you’re just here to do a demo job on AOC.

            • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              6 days ago

              She’s saying I won’t vote to give Israel any more funds because it has a lot of money.

              Okay so if Israel stops having a lot of money what happens?

              • alexc@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 days ago

                Great question. I suspect it won’t be able to fund it’s massive military build up any more, or it’s population will suffer - You know, like Trump just admitted when he said we cannot pay for Childcare because of war. I’d like think the Israeli government was reasonable and started to for peace instead of continuing the invade the region and continue it’s genocide.

                However, as I said before, what AOC said does NOT mean she’ll vote to give them money. I expect (hope) like most politicians, she is constantly reforming her position as new information becomes available.

                And I’ll also say again: maybe if you said what we were actually for instead of pursuing this naive “gotcha” on AOC.

                • eldavi@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  7
                  ·
                  6 days ago

                  what AOC said does NOT mean she’ll vote to give them money.

                  correct, she only voted to give them weapons and before iran entered the picture.

                • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  6 days ago

                  I expect (hope) like most politicians, she is constantly reforming her position as new information becomes available.

                  She won’t if turbolibs jump in to defend her at every slight criticism. That why she’s only changed her position after getting blasted for it and her new position is still milquetoast

    • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      She still is in favor of selling pissrahell weapons. She isn’t in favor of giving them away for free. Like, that’s obvious.

      • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        7 days ago

        this user’s entire MO is making people not like AOC.

        I see operation “point out the things she says” is going splendidly

      • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        6 days ago

        I mean if all he has to do is point to AOC’s support for genocide and apartheid then it seems to just be a case of pointing of telling others about how shitty a politician is. “You’re only posting about Hitlamar Ben Gbil’s picture in an execution cell dedicated to palestinians to make people dislike Hitlamar”

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          6 days ago

          AOC’s support for genocide and apartheid

          If you just say it with confidence, then it means it must be true.

          • orc girly@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            5 days ago

            Do you believe she cares at all about Palestinians? The argument isn’t whether AOC is better than an average democrat (she very well might be domestically) but that she’s an imperialist who doesn’t give a shit about sending military equipment to Israel to maintain their apartheid state and keep exterminating Palestinians. If you remember just a few months ago, even the opportunistic ghoul MTG was to the left of AOC on Israel. People like AOC and Sanders are liberal Zionists and the sooner you see it the better.