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    4 days ago

    It’s one American in particular pushing it, so it’s a bit funny to use plural, but yes, he means it.

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      as article points out: that one person is supported by a whole class of Americans - the billionaires. And those in turn are supported by not insignificant portion of American population. So plural is very apropos here.

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          businesspeople differ from billionaires in that they don’t get to impact policies and they don’t run multinationals milking both sides of the border

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            Billionaires tend to be buisnesspeople, plenty of multinationals (most, actually) aren’t owned by a billionaire, and non-billionaires can run businesses that operate in multiple countries (again, probably most of them).

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          As is tradition.

          This isn’t even like an objective of the whole MAGA movement, though. Maybe they’ll manage to drum up more support over time, but right now, it’s the fuhrer’s vanity project. So, that doesn’t really count as “being serious about it”, for the rest of them.

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        Yeah, there is that legal fiction, and typical way of looking at things, so it’s not an incorrect phrasing. It’s just kinda funny.

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            400 million people is 400 million distinct people. Nobody could or does represent them; the idea that someone can represent “the will of the people” is propaganda. Same with every other government; they actually just have control.

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              A leader that is elected by their country, represents it. It’s a collective responsibility.

              In Trumps case, he truly represents it, in every way. Selfish, debaucherous, arrogant, can’t take criticism.

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                A leader that is elected by their country, represents it. It’s a collective responsibility.

                Well, that’s basically the propaganda. Says who? God? Physics? Neither. And, elect how? Some countries have proportional representation, which neither the US or Canada do.

                At the end of the day, a state is anything that has a monopoly on the use of force. Some allocate political power within themselves through elections (of many massively different kinds), while some do it other ways.

                You could say, “okay, elections have nothing to do with it, but we’re still responsible for what we let our governments do”, and there’s a strong argument for that. But, by that measure pretty much everyone sucks everywhere, which you can take however you want.